[Vision2020] Feedback (or is it)
lrr
webmistress at elly-ah.net
Fri Dec 10 12:23:12 PST 2004
Before I say anything, I should jump up and down and claim that I'm as lefty as
anyone here (I'm guessing). *I* know what you mean by tolerance and *you*
know..you get the point.
That said, I think Dale has a point. There is in most minds a point at which
ideology clashes with practice. In that cozy head space of mine, I like to
think that the world has a place for all ideas and practices and the only
justification needed for something is that it exists. I call this my 'inner
anthropologist'--every expression of human potential is interesting and
therefore worth having. Pragmatically--and because, damn it, I can't seem to
shake a sense of ethics no matter how much I try to convince myself I'm a
nihilist--I'm fairly intolerant of ideas that I think are harmful. I will not
abide by people proselytysing my kids, I hate that people would deny others the
choice of who to partner with, I don't really care that America apparently
favors Bush; MY American embodies something entirely different that what he's
got on offer. From this perspective, I can't really see that Dale is wrong.
The Calvinists and I lack a fundamental common ground and our ideas really
cannot cohabitate harmoniously. We can't even agree on a similar lexicon such
that we can reliably use a word like 'tolerate' in conversation. So yes, from
his perspective I'm intolerant, and I think it would be fairly scary if most
lefties weren't.
Quoting Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>:
> Greetings Visionaires -
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> Is it really considered "feedback" if you are talking to yourself?
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> For example (from Dale "Doug's Boy" Courtney's blog):
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> # re: Feedback on Right-Mind
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> Dale
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> Actually, "Intolerista" is a term that Moscow's Left have embraced for
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> And I'm not the one who coined the phrase "the intolerant Tolerant".
> Classical liberals *are* tolerant of diversity of opinions. Moscow's
> liberals are neither classical liberals or tolerant of true diversity.
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> Best,
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> Dale
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> Posted @ 12/10/2004 8:20 AM
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> Note to Doug's Boy: You either need a therapist or a life. Which is it?
> With the proper medication and a couple years of therapy, who knows?
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> Take care,
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> Tom 'Smackwater Jack 49er" Hansen
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> A good friend will come and bail you out of jail. But a true friend will be
> sitting next to you saying, "Damn . . . that was fun!"
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