[Vision2020] Response to Pat Kraut on Plagiarism

Pat Kraut pkraut at moscow.com
Mon Aug 30 22:06:42 PDT 2004


I guess I didn't realize that you were the plagerism police. If the author
hasn't sent the Feds looking for Wilson why is it such a big deal to you? I
think you are letting your personal distaste for Wilson get the better of
you.
PK
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
To: "'Nicholas Gier'" <ngier at uidaho.edu>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 12:48 PM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Response to Pat Kraut on Plagiarism


> Kinda reminds you of Jim and Tammy Faye, huh?
>
> "Oh, Jesus.  Forgive me for I have sinned . . . " (as the tears rolled
down
> his face)
>
> Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
>
> Tom "I am" Hansen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> On Behalf Of Nicholas Gier
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 11:23 AM
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] Response to Pat Kraut on Plagiarism
>
> Dear Pat,
>
> I may have already reminded you of these two points, but it seems as if I
> need to repeat them.  The students who plagiarized in my classes always
> apologized,and they always said that they did not intend to do it.
>
> The Daily News headline was really off the wall.  I don't know of any case
> of plagiarism that was done with malevolent intent.
>
> But all of this is besides the main point.  The students apologized but
they
> still failed.
>
> The second point is that students never get a second chance to do the
paper
> over again.  Professor Engerman has stated that Wilson and Wilkins
"misused"
> his work.  How can he be sure that Wilson will not misuse it again,
> especially since he intends to stand by a thesis that he cannot defend?
>
> Nick Gier
>
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