[Vision2020] Response to Pat Kraut on Plagiarism

Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com
Mon Aug 30 12:48:43 PDT 2004


Kinda reminds you of Jim and Tammy Faye, huh?

"Oh, Jesus.  Forgive me for I have sinned . . . " (as the tears rolled down
his face)

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

Tom "I am" Hansen

-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Nicholas Gier
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 11:23 AM
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: [Vision2020] Response to Pat Kraut on Plagiarism

Dear Pat,

I may have already reminded you of these two points, but it seems as if I
need to repeat them.  The students who plagiarized in my classes always
apologized,and they always said that they did not intend to do it.  

The Daily News headline was really off the wall.  I don't know of any case
of plagiarism that was done with malevolent intent.

But all of this is besides the main point.  The students apologized but they
still failed.

The second point is that students never get a second chance to do the paper
over again.  Professor Engerman has stated that Wilson and Wilkins "misused"
his work.  How can he be sure that Wilson will not misuse it again,
especially since he intends to stand by a thesis that he cannot defend?

Nick Gier

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