[Vision2020] Chamber President and FirstBank

Pat Kraut pkraut at moscow.com
Thu Aug 26 22:49:00 PDT 2004

So, your aware of their income and all its sources?? I think your comments
on FirstBank and Ms. McMillian borders on slander. Especially if you have
not talked with her or Mr Kimmel yourself and are only relying on Ms White.
Or the gossip blown out of purportion on this web site. As always we can
count on you for an inflamatory response with little real background.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanarnold at hotmail.com>
To: <auntiestablishment at hotmail.com>; <sdredge at yahoo.com>;
<vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Chamber President and FirstBank

> Scott, Joan, Wayne, Saundra, etc.
> Consider this aspect:
> Kimmel gets $1000 every two weeks for his job. That is about $9,000 for
> rest of the year. They said they have about $12-15,000. That means they
> really have about $3,000-$6,000. I am willing be bet their rent,
> other officer salaries and needed expenses from September to December are
> going to run over $3,000-$6,000. I guess what has to be asked is what
> do they have between now and January and what other expenses do they have.
> I for one do not believe that they have enough money to last until January
> if just $9,000 of $12,000 is going to just one man.
> I am also willing to bet it is going to be difficult to fill the coffers
> after Kimmell's stupid stunt of using Gen. Lee and the Confederate Flag as
> focus person of a "business leadership conference". That is so obvious to
> anyone fortunate enough to have a brain that it was a "wink wink" to the
> members of his Church while Kimmell publicly tries to deny pulling favors
> for the Church. Only members of Christ Church would think "General Robert
> Lee" when asked to name successful business leaders.
> If Ms. McMillan knows this and says nothing she is not worthy of my
> business, if she doesn't know this, she is to naive to have control of my
> money.
> Sincerely,
> Donovan J Arnold
> >From: "Joan Opyr" <auntiestablishment at hotmail.com>
> >To: "Scott Dredge" <sdredge at yahoo.com>,   "Vision2020 Moscow"
> ><vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Chamber President and FirstBank
> >Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:01:36 -0700
> >
> >Scott writes:
> >
> > >I can also look up my bank and brokerage accounts
> > >online - and even my Alaska Airlines Visa account -
> > >and get my balances to the penny.  However, if I were
> > >talking to a reporter and for some reason I felt the
> > >need to quote balances for any of these accounts I
> > >would likely be off by a fair percentage.  We're
> > >ratholing on this issue.
> >
> > >I'm not overly concerned about ballpark numbers that
> > >come up in the course of a conversation with a
> > >reporter.  My question is this...is the Chamber in
> > >financial dire straits and, if so, why?
> >
> >
> >Can I get an amen from the choir?  Why make up a number and thus look
> >uniformed?  Why not simply refuse to answer the question?  Hem, haw,
> >shuffle some papers, and say, "I'll have to get back to you on that."
> >Works for John Kerry and George Bush.
> >
> >Scott is right.  Is the Chamber or is it not in dire financial straits?
> >the Chamber board chooses the path of inaction regarding Paul Kimmell's
> >management problems, bookkeeping problems, hiring problems, and (the
> >seven-minute icing on this doorstop of a fruitcake) the decision to
> >orchestrate a Robert E. Lee leadership retreat, then what will the
> >be among Chamber members?  How many will resign, taking their thousands
> >dollars in membership dues with them?  Good questions, all, and all
> >unanswered.
> >
> >Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
> >
> >PS: I'd like to propose an alternative for those businesses who no longer
> >feel comfortable with the Chamber of Commerce.  You are welcome instead
> >join Auntie Establishment's Chamber of Horrors.  I can't guarantee you a
> >year-round sales boost, but come Halloween, you'll be swamped with
> >customers.  Opyr is the Ukrainian word for vampire, you know.  Oh wait,
> >didn't know?  Oops!  What a giveaway!
> >
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