[Vision2020] Aug 10 Update on Dog Park

Rev. Douglas Creeps_Church at moscow.com
Tue Aug 10 16:15:43 PDT 2004


Steve,

What you say does not surprise me.  For many, many years this kind of thing has
gone on in Moscow.

Look at all the sub-divisions that were approved without paved streets,
sidewalks on both sides, without curb and gutter, etc. without regard to safety
and for future homeowner's costs.  As a former planner elsewhere, I know that
this kind of thing points to corruption, unregulated influence, manipulation,
and gullibility at various places in the system.

Moscow is for most a wonderful community to live in.  I thank the city council
for going through with some of the needed improvements on Mountain View.  (Some
of the problems addressed should have never happened in the first place.)  As
nice as Moscow is it does have a have a few major problems.  "Developers Rule!"
is one of them.

Again, I had hoped that the new city council would have reined in the developers
and the paid city staff who have created the environment at city hall of
appeasement/bending-over-backwards to developers at the cost to the ordinary
citizen.  It is one thing to assist developers; it is another to allow them to
run roughshod over the needs and concerns of citizens.

Perhaps, we can hear from an assortment of city employees, elected officials,
and others on why this unfortunate trend continues.

Wayne

Art Deco  (Wayne Fox)
deco at moscow.com


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steve Lindsey
  To: Art Deco aka W. Fox ; Vision 2020
  Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 3:29 PM
  Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Aug 10 Update on Dog Park


  The truly frustrating thing is that the developers and the School district had
all but decided they were going to take over the dog park, gave an hour notice
to most other parties involved in the planning committee meeting, including
members of the committee.  Then pressured the city to approve the plan with
"minor" adjustments so they could get the project started and the new asphalt
down to accommodate the new school year. The developers and/or school district
are in the back pocket of someone with enough power to push this big of a
project through in less than a month.  I'll be sure to remember all these events
come election time, hopefully others will as well.

  Steve
    -----Original Message-----
    From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]On
Behalf Of Art Deco aka W. Fox
    Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 3:17 PM
    To: Vision 2020
    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Aug 10 Update on Dog Park


    Steve,

    I am at a loss to see why the city needs to accommodate the developers.  Why
can't they just say "No."  I thought the results of last election was to get rid
of this kind of good ol' boy/girlism where developers rule.  I guess I was
wrong.

    Wayne

    Art Deco  (Wayne Fox)
    deco at moscow.com

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Steve Lindsey
      To: Kit Craine ; 2020 Vision ; hsop at moscow.com
      Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 2:09 PM
      Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Aug 10 Update on Dog Park


      Kit,

      Thanks for the information, however, the statement "there will be no major
losers" is a bit out of line.  For one the "New" area of the dog park in the
Southeast corner will be if not directly connected very close to the existing
outdoor dog kennels on the south side of the shelter.  The Humane Society staff,
when meeting with the city engineers, specifically asked that a concrete or
cinder block wall be built to separate and obstruct the view of the shelter dogs
and the dogs in the park.  This request has been ignored as have many other
requests the Humane Society has asked for.  Who will be responsible should a dog
from the public jump the fence into the Humane Society kennels or vice versa,
and one of the dogs is injured?  Who will be accountable when the poor dog or
dogs that stay in the kennel closest to the dog park become "kennel crazy" due
to watching all the other dogs in the park run free, and therefore being at the
shelter for a much longer time? Thankfully the Humane Society is a no-kill
shelter, and spot will not be euphonized because he has been there for months.

      There will be major losers in this and it will be the users of the dog
park, the Humane Society of the Palouse, and the dogs.

      Steve Lindsey



       -----Original Message-----
      From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]On Behalf Of Kit Craine
      Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 1:05 PM
      To: 2020 Vision
      Subject: [Vision2020] Aug 10 Update on Dog Park


        Here's the latest on the Dog Park:

        Yesterday (August 9, 2004) staff presented what they feel is the best
solution to the encroachment into Dog Park to the Public Works/Finance
committee. This was a report so no decisions were made.

        According to the City Engineer, the proposed route through the park is,
in fact, the only viable solution to the school district's requirements for a
bus\-compatible driveway. The following actions will be taken in order to
mitigate the damage to the park:

        \-> The school district will trade land that is currently a landscaped
buffer along the east boundary of the park for the land they need.

        \-> The east side of the park will be expanded into that area, plus a
chunk on the south\-east corner of the existing park; roughly, this chunk goes
along the east side of the shelter to the south side of the shelter. The result
will be an L\-shaped area that is approximately 5,000 square feet larger than
the current park.

        \-> The park expansion will eat four parking places. To replace these,
five spaces will be built on the west side of the shelter's driveway.

        \-> The estimated cost for this project is $25,000\-$26,200. The
Salisburys will pay this by foregoing the city's contribution (approx. $25,000)
for upgrading the sewer main from 8 inches to 12.

        \-> The city will try to do the work in stages so the park can remain
open.

        At this time, the drawbacks appear to be:

        \-> The Humane Society has raised funds and purchased materials to build
two outdoor dog runs where people can meet prospective pets. Their plan was to
put these runs on the west side of the shelter; the city engineer feels there
will be enough space south of the new parking spaces for these runs; the Humane
Society isn't sure whether that is true. The city and Humane Society are still
looking into that.

        \-> The school district's driveway will take the best\-drained area of
the park. The users are concerned over the park becoming a mud\-hole during the
rainy seasons. That issue is being evaluated.

        \-> The suggested solution will make it impossible to expand the already
at\-capacity animal shelter. As a result, when the shelter must expand, it will
have to be relocated to a new site.

        The city is working with all involved parties, including the Humane
Society, so it doesn't appear that there will be any major losers.

        That's all for now.

        Kit Craine



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