[Vision2020] Fwd: [Vandal]Tormey's recruits
Art Deco aka W. Fox
deco at moscow.com
Tue Aug 10 12:02:18 PDT 2004
Carl, et al,
I think that we need to remember that Tom Cable also had some strong rules and
procedures for keeping his players disciplined and in control (a 3 strikes rule,
for example). He also appeared to have some strong feelings about academic
achievement also. He seemed to me to be an very decent, hardworking person. I
was saddened that he didn't produce more wins not only for Idaho but for the
concept that a coach should be concerned for the entire gamut of problems that
can face his students, not just producing a short term winner.
Wayne
Art Deco (Wayne Fox)
deco at moscow.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Westberg" <carlwestberg846 at hotmail.com>
To: <mjmiller at moscow.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>; <thansen at moscow.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fwd: [Vandal]Tormey's recruits
| While the Nevada situation is particularly egregious, it's an illustration
| of the mess that NCAA football (and basketball) has become. I read ESPN.com
| daily, and it seems that fully half the headlines in the college football
| section are about football players at schools across the country being
| arrested for this, indicted for that. Meanwhile, the coaches and ADs wring
| their hands and feign astonishment that this could have happened. I happen
| to love college football, but this is out of control. I think credit should
| be given to Tom Cable in this area. He may have flopped regarding wins and
| losses, but I don't recall any of his players getting into serious trouble.
| I'm sure the same will be true with Nick Holt.
|
|
|
| Carl Westberg Jr.
|
|
| >From: "Mark and Julie Miller" <mjmiller at moscow.com>
| >To: "Visionaries" <vision2020 at moscow.com>, "Joe" <thansen at moscow.com>
| >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fwd: [Vandal]Tormey's recruits
| >Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 11:24:58 -0700
| >
| >This is just like Ault to blame someone else. He's just looking for a
| >scapegoat for a program that has been his responsibility for many years. I
| >always thought that it was a mistake for Chris to take that job in the
| >first
| >place.
| >
| >Mark
| >
| >
| >----- Original Message -----
| >From: <Say.It.Aint.So at whale2.fsr.net>; "Joe" <thansen at moscow.com>
| >To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
| >Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 11:15 AM
| >Subject: [Vision2020] Fwd: [Vandal]Tormey's recruits
| >
| >
| > > This just in concerning former Nevada Head Coach Chris Tormey.
| > >
| > > Tom Hansen
| > >
| > > Forwarded Message:
| > > > To: vandal at uidaho.edu
| > > > From: Scott Dredge <sdredge at juniper.net>
| > > > Subject: [Vandal]Tormey's recruits
| > > > Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 10:44:10 -0700 (PDT)
| > > > -----
| > > > UW coach blamed in scandal at University of Nevada
| > > >
| > > > 01:32 PM PDT on Monday, August 9, 2004
| > > >
| > > > Associated Press
| > > >
| > > > UW
| > > > Chris Tormey
| > > >
| > > > RENO, Nev. - UW assistant head coach Chris Tormey is
| > > > coming under fire following a scandal at his former
| > > > school, the University of Nevada.
| > > >
| > > > Nevada begins practice Monday under new leadership and
| > > > a dark cloud after the arrests of nine Wolf Pack
| > > > football players on felony charges over the last 1 1/2
| > > > years.
| > > >
| > > > Coach Chris Ault expressed shock and anger after the
| > > > latest arrest, and questioned the recruiting practices
| > > > of former coach Tormey.
| > > >
| > > > Sophomore cornerback Rodney Landingham was arrested
| > > > Thursday on suspicion of robbing a Wells Fargo Bank in
| > > > Reno. Police said he later admitted to three other
| > > > armed robberies in Reno this summer.
| > > >
| > > > On July 30, junior defensive end Brenton Kendrick and
| > > > sophomore cornerback Steven Murphy were arrested on
| > > > multiple drug charges in downtown Reno.
| > > >
| > > > "I think these incidents of the last week make it very
| > > > clear why our program is in the fragile and
| > > > unrespected position it is today," said Ault, who was
| > > > hired for his third tour as head coach in December.
| > > >
| > > > "Looking at this last (string of arrests), coupled
| > > > with some things prior, I feel the moral fiber of this
| > > > football program was in perception only," he added.
| > > >
| > > > The cases date back to early last year when wide
| > > > receiver Gary Snyder was arrested on suspicion of
| > > > sexual assault and defensive end Craig Bailey was
| > > > booked on battery charges.
| > > >
| > > > Late last year, running backs Joe Bwire and B.J.
| > > > Mitchell and cornerback Chris Handy were indicted on
| > > > battery charges stemming from a June fight near
| > > > campus.
| > > >
| > > > And in April, special teams player Randy Landingham
| > > > was indicted on burglary and obtaining money under
| > > > false pretenses charges in a forged check scheme. He's
| > > > Rodney Landingham's twin brother.
| > > >
| > > > Ault said all nine players were recruited by Tormey,
| > > > who posted a 16-31 record in four years at Nevada,
| > > > including 6-6 last season. Tormey was hired and fired
| > > > by Ault, former athletic director.
| > > >
| > > > "These are not the type of players I want associated
| > > > with our program," Ault told the Reno Gazette-Journal.
| > > > "You certainly have to question the type of players
| > > > who have been recruited here in the past.
| > > >
| > > > "College kids do dumb college things like fraternity
| > > > parties and that stuff. But these are criminal acts.
| > > > Getting rid of this kind of cancer is a tough thing,
| > > > but you have to do it," he added.
| > > >
| > > > Tormey and Washington Athletic Department spokesman
| > > > Jim Daves did not immediately return phone calls.
| > > >
| > > > Nevada assistant coach Jim Mastro, who was recruiting
| > > > coordinator under Tormey and holds the same position
| > > > under Ault, said it's the head coach's responsibility
| > > > to decide which players to recruit.
| > > >
| > > > "The difference is that Coach Ault clearly defines
| > > > what kind of player he wants in the program," Mastro
| > > > said. "A lot of these kids we're having trouble with
| > > > now, under Coach Ault, they would have never made it
| > > > to the front door of campus."
| > > >
| > > > Ault said future recruits would undergo more scrutiny.
| > > >
| > > > "We are going to take all of the precautions and check
| > > > character," he said. "This is paramount with me. If
| > > > there is anything there with an asterisk, we don't
| > > > need to be recruiting them.
| > > >
| > > > "I had my problems in the past and I will have my
| > > > problems. But they will be college problems, not this
| > > > kind of stuff," he said.
| > > >
| > > > In an interview with Reno station KRNV-TV, Rodney
| > > > Landingham admitted to the Wells Fargo robbery and
| > > > three other armed robberies in Reno this summer.
| > > >
| > > > He said a gambling habit left him in debt and he hopes
| > > > a judge will go easy on him.
| > > >
| > > > "I tried to do it the right way, but the world
| > > > revolves around money, and it (robberies) was my only
| > > > option ... It would've been worth it if I hadn't
| > > > gotten caught," Landingham said.
| > > >
| > > > Landingham, 21, played the 2002 season at Oregon State
| > > > and was forced to sit out the 2003 season under NCAA
| > > > rules after transferring to Nevada.
| > > >
| > > > Under Nevada rules, players accused of felonies are
| > > > immediately dismissed from the team.
| > > >
| > > > _______________________________________________
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