[Vision2020] Ribbons, medals, and lying to ABC
Tom Hansen
thansen@moscow.com
Tue, 27 Apr 2004 19:33:48 -0700
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Two things, Mr. Duffau.
First. I am not sure about now. But, back then a draftee/enlistee acquired
a six-year obligation. That six years could be satisfied in virtually any
combination of active duty and reserve time (be it active or inactive). If
John Kerry was drafted or enlisted for two years, he still had a four-year
obligation to the reserves. Once a person is discharged, he/she is assigned
to a reserve unit to fulfill the remianing obligation.
Second. Your suggestion that LTJG John Kerry " . . . was at a meeting in
which assassinations of public officials was discussed, while still in the
reserves . . . " seems almost as contrived as Dubya's "honorable" service.
Judging by the first endorsement to LTJG John Kerry's Release from Active
Duty, dated 2 January 1970, he was ordered to inactive reserve.
(http://www.johnkerry.com/about/Release_From_Active_Duty.pdf). A thorough
search of records on display at his website and numerous searches via
www.google.com resulted in disclosure of one document subsequent to his
release from active duty on 2 January 1970.
http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jkerry/trnsfr2stndyrsrv.pdf
A Contingent Transfer to the Standby (Inactive) Reserves effective 1 July
1972, dated 1 March 1972.
This tells me that he was on active reserve status until he fulfilled his
six-year obligation on 1 July 1972 and was then transferred into the
inactive reserve,
Could you please share with us ANY evidence that you may have come across
reflecting Kerry's military service subsequent to 1 July 1972, especially
any evidence linking him to assassinations of public officials?
I anxiously await your response.
Tom Hansen
Not On The Palouse, Not Ever
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From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On
Behalf Of Paul Duffau
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 6:44 PM
To: vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Ribbons, medals, and lying to ABC
Joan,
You are correct that it is a fact that Kerry was decorated for his
heroism. You are also correct that on his return he protested that same
war. It is also a fact that he did so a a member of the Reserves. He also
met with North Vietnamese in Paris while in the Reserves. And apparently
was at a meeting in which assassinations of public officials was discussed,
while still in the Reserves. (This last is in question - his separation
papers direct him to contact the Naval Reserves immediately upon discharge.
A separate document shows service from '72-'78 for the Reserves. A question
for Tom, since he will be far more familiar than I am with discharge
procedures: When discharged, do you serve for a period of time in the
active Reserves before reassignment to Inactive status?)
In my mind, his behavior after his return is an issue. His behavior in
the service was honorable and praiseworthy. Much of the criticism that I've
seen recently deals with the period after his release from the Navy.
Paul Duffau
At 03:47 PM 4/27/04 -0700, you wrote:
The facts of the case are simple: Kerry was decorated for heroism in
Vietnam. Kerry, on his return, protested the Vietnam War. That's it. Sum
total.
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D330460002-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Two =
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Duffau.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D330460002-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>First. I am=20
not sure about now. But, back then a draftee/enlistee acquired a =
six-year=20
obligation. That six years could be satisfied in virtually any =
combination=20
of active duty and reserve time (be it active or inactive). If =
John Kerry=20
was drafted or enlisted for two years, he still had a four-year =
obligation to=20
the reserves. Once a person is discharged, he/she is assigned to a =
reserve=20
unit to fulfill the remianing obligation.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D330460002-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D330460002-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Second. =20
Your suggestion that LTJG John Kerry " . . . was at a meeting in which=20
assassinations of public officials was discussed, while still in the =
reserves .=20
. . " seems almost as contrived as Dubya's "honorable"=20
service.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D330460002-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D330460002-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Judging by the=20
first endorsement to LTJG John Kerry's Release from Active Duty, dated 2 =
January=20
1970, he was ordered to inactive reserve. (<A=20
href=3D"http://www.johnkerry.com/about/Release_From_Active_Duty.pdf">http=
://www.johnkerry.com/about/Release_From_Active_Duty.pdf</A>). =
A=20
thorough search of records on display at his website and numerous =
searches via=20
<A href=3D"http://www.google.com">www.google.com</A> resulted in =
disclosure of one=20
document subsequent to his release from active duty on 2 January=20
1970.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D330460002-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D330460002-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jkerry/trnsfr2stndyrsrv.pdf">h=
ttp://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jkerry/trnsfr2stndyrsrv.pdf</A></FONT><=
/SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D330460002-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>A =
Contingent=20
Transfer to the Standby (Inactive) Reserves effective 1 July 1972, =
dated 1=20
March 1972.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D330460002-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D330460002-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>This tells me=20
that he was on active reserve status until he fulfilled his six-year =
obligation=20
on 1 July 1972 and was then transferred into the inactive=20
reserve,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D330460002-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D330460002-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Could you please=20
share with us ANY evidence that you may have come across reflecting =
Kerry's=20
military service subsequent to 1 July 1972, especially any evidence =
linking him=20
to assassinations of public officials?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D330460002-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D330460002-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I =
anxiously await=20
your response.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D330460002-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D330460002-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Tom =
Hansen</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D330460002-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Not =
On The=20
Palouse, Not Ever</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
vision2020-admin@moscow.com=20
[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Paul=20
Duffau<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 27, 2004 6:44 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
vision2020@moscow.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Ribbons, =
medals, and=20
lying to ABC<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Joan,<BR><BR>You are correct that it =
is a=20
fact that Kerry was decorated for his heroism. You are also =
correct that=20
on his return he protested that same war. It is also a fact that =
he did=20
so a a member of the Reserves. He also met with North Vietnamese =
in=20
Paris while in the Reserves. And apparently was at a meeting in =
which=20
assassinations of public officials was discussed, while still in =
the=20
Reserves. (This last is in question - his separation papers =
direct him=20
to contact the Naval Reserves immediately upon discharge. A =
separate=20
document shows service from '72-'78 for the Reserves. A question =
for=20
Tom, since he will be far more familiar than I am with discharge=20
procedures: When discharged, do you serve for a period of time =
in the=20
active Reserves before reassignment to Inactive status?)<BR><BR>In my =
mind,=20
his behavior after his return is an issue. His behavior in the =
service=20
was honorable and praiseworthy. Much of the criticism that I've =
seen=20
recently deals with the period after his release from the Navy. =20
<BR><BR>Paul Duffau<BR><BR>At 03:47 PM 4/27/04 -0700, you wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite">The facts of the case are simple: =
Kerry was=20
decorated for heroism in Vietnam. Kerry, on his return, =
protested the=20
Vietnam War. That's it. Sum total.<BR> <BR>
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