[Vision2020] Dick Cheney's 2003 tax savings larger than your annual income.
Tom Hansen
thansen@moscow.com
Sat, 17 Apr 2004 13:45:06 -0700
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Mr. Lohrmann is correct.
Why speak for yourself on election day? Why not fall in line with the other
lemmings?
And Damn It! Whare is that collection plate, the one with the Douglas
Wilson corporate seal?
Take care,
Tom Hansen
Vote Republican. It's easier than thinking
PS - A 10% to 18% margin in Idaho is the closest it has been for quite a
while and that margin is getting smaller every election year. Voices are
being heard at the polls. See you there.
-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On
Behalf Of Tim Lohrmann
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 11:12 AM
To: Joan Opyr
Cc: vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Dick Cheney's 2003 tax savings larger than your
annual income.
Planet Reality?
Reality is that GW is going to take Idaho by a 10-18% margin.
So, if you believe that we need more choices, why waste your vote on Kerry
when he has no chance here?
Picking the strongest third party candidate and voting for him/her will at
least encourage the folks who actually may succeed in giving us more choices
in the future.
Voting for a candidate you don't particularly like and who's sure to lose
the state doesn't improve anything.
TL
Joan Opyr <auntiestablishment@hotmail.com> wrote:
Tim writes:
>But only 50% of registered voters usually bother to vote in Pres.
elections anyway you say? And only >about 50% of those eligible to vote
bother to register? So you're saying that the Pres. elections only >attract
about 25% of those who could participate? And that the last few presidents
have taken office >without even a majority of this fractional number of
voters?
So what would you think, Tim, about having publicly-financed elections?
No more politicians soliciting donations, corporate, private, or PAC, just a
set amount of money from the tax-payers and equal amounts of free air time.
Oh, and how about a six-week time limit on the general election campaign?
In other words, let's have an election like they have in the UK or Canada.
And, by all means, let's get third, and fourth, and fifth party candidates
in there. Nader would certainly add something to the debates; so would H.
Ross Perot. Hell, let's get Jesse Ventura and Pat Buchanan, too. More
voices, different voices, smart voices, scary voices . . . I'm all for it.
In the meantime, back here on Planet Reality, those of us who recognize
and deplore the damage Bush has done know that it is once again "lesser of
two evils" time. That, for me, means John Kerry. I'm not excited about the
prospect. He does not make my heart go pit-a-pat. I wish I could vote for
Charles Kennedy and the Liberal Democrats, but they're running in Great
Britain and I'm not registered there. And so, I must ask myself, what would
the devil Kerry do in comparison to the demon Bush? Would he push a
constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage? No. Would he make Bush's tax
cuts permanent? No. Would he nominate more Antonin Scalias to the federal
bench? No.
So, unless I can convince Herbert West to raise Bobby Kennedy from the
dead, this year I'll have to make do with the other JFK. And, honey, if
that means I never have to watch George W. waffle his unimpressive way
through the pathetically tame Washington press corps, I'll be happy.
With low expectations,
Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D596013820-17042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Mr. =
Lohrmann is=20
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D596013820-17042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D596013820-17042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Why =
speak for=20
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lemmings?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D596013820-17042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D596013820-17042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>And =
Damn=20
It! Whare is that collection plate, the one with the Douglas =
Wilson=20
corporate seal?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D596013820-17042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
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care,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D596013820-17042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D596013820-17042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Tom =
Hansen</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D596013820-17042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Vote=20
Republican. It's easier than thinking</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D596013820-17042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D596013820-17042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>PS =
- A 10% to 18%=20
margin in Idaho is the closest it has been for quite a while and that =
margin is=20
getting smaller every election year. Voices are being heard at the =
polls. See you there.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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vision2020-admin@moscow.com=20
[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Tim=20
Lohrmann<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 17, 2004 11:12 =
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Joan=20
Opyr<BR><B>Cc:</B> vision2020@moscow.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[Vision2020]=20
Dick Cheney's 2003 tax savings larger than your annual=20
income.<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Planet Reality?</DIV>
<DIV>Reality is that GW is going to take Idaho by a 10-18% =
margin.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>So, if you believe that we need more choices, why waste your vote =
on=20
Kerry when he has no chance here?</DIV>
<DIV>Picking the strongest third party candidate and voting for =
him/her=20
will at least encourage the folks who actually may succeed in giving =
us more=20
choices in the future. </DIV>
<DIV>Voting for a candidate you don't particularly like and who's sure =
to lose=20
the state doesn't improve anything.</DIV>
<DIV>TL<BR><BR><B><I>Joan Opyr =
<auntiestablishment@hotmail.com></I></B>=20
wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dreplbq=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px =
solid">
<DIV>Tim writes:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>>But only 50% of registered voters usually bother =
to=20
vote in Pres. elections anyway you say? And only =
>about=20
50% of those eligible to vote bother to register? So =
you're=20
saying that the Pres. elections only >attract about 25% of those =
who=20
could participate? And that the last few presidents have taken =
office=20
>without even a majority of this fractional number of =
voters?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>So what would you think, Tim, about having =
publicly-financed=20
elections? No more politicians soliciting donations, =
corporate, private, or PAC, just a set amount of money from the =
tax-payers=20
and equal amounts of free air time. Oh, and how =
about a six-week time limit on the general election =
campaign? In=20
other words, let's have an election like they have in the UK or =
Canada. And, by all means, let's get third, and fourth, and =
fifth=20
party candidates in there. Nader would certainly add something =
to the=20
debates; so would H. Ross Perot. Hell, let's get Jesse =
Ventura=20
and Pat Buchanan, too. More voices, different voices, smart =
voices,=20
scary voices . . . I'm all for it.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>In the meantime, back here on Planet Reality, those of us =
who=20
recognize and deplore the damage Bush has done know that it is =
once=20
again "lesser of two evils" time. That, for me, means =
John=20
Kerry. I'm not excited about the prospect. He does not =
make my=20
heart go pit-a-pat. I wish I could vote for Charles Kennedy =
and the=20
Liberal Democrats, but they're running in Great Britain and I'm not=20
registered there. And so, I must ask myself, what would =
the devil=20
Kerry do in comparison to the demon Bush? =
Would he push=20
a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage? No. =
Would=20
he make Bush's tax cuts permanent? No. Would =
he=20
nominate more Antonin Scalias to the federal bench? =20
No. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>So, unless I can convince Herbert West to raise Bobby Kennedy =
from the=20
dead, this year I'll have to make do with the other JFK. =
And,=20
honey, if that means I never have to watch George W. waffle his =
unimpressive=20
way through the pathetically tame Washington press corps, I'll be=20
happy.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>With low expectations,</DIV>
<DIV>Joan Opyr/Auntie =
Establishment </DIV><BR=20
clear=3Dall>
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