[Vision2020] Don't criticize Bush..

Tim Lohrmann timlohr@yahoo.com
Fri, 9 Apr 2004 10:09:58 -0700 (PDT)


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     It might be pretty ridiculous to try and quash dissent at any time. 
     
    But gee-whiz, what those fellows have said looks pretty tame compared to what that Liberal Democrat icon FDR did during wartime.
    
    His administration oversaw forced relocation of Japanese-Americans, surveillance of Americans of German and Italian origin, and a major Sedition trial of foreign policy critics. 
     
    Kennedy, LBJ, and trickydicky weren't angels when it came to critics either--and they had J. Edgar to help them right out with counter intelligence and surveillance against domestic foreign policy opponents. 
   
   So I guess those senators wannna just carry on a good ole Demican/Republicrat tradition!
    TL
 
 

Rob Keenan <benjamin_barker@hotmail.com> wrote:
That dichotomy is pretty telling. And the funny thing is, if you look at our
past history and the founding of this nation, it is our right and sacred
honor to criticize a government when it no longer represents us.

In fact, here's s snippet of the manifesto I wrote July 4, when I was
feeling particularly patriotic:

"I believe one can be patriotic and still criticize their government. I
believe in the fundamental foundations of democracy, a system rooted in the
belief that every person's voice must be heard. When one's voice is not
heard, it is their sacred duty and obligation to speak louder, by whatever
means necessary. I love this country for what it does right and I chastize
it where it fails. I believe that had it not been for a group of ragtag
political dissidents, this great nation would never have been founded -- I,
for one, am grateful to those outcasts from preventing me a life of eating
blood pudding and trying to wrap my head around the rules of cricket."

ROB
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Subject: [Vision2020] Don't criticize Bush..


> Does anyone else find it disturbing that in the last couple of days,
> Republican senators have made statements such as this from Georgia's Saxby
> Chambliss: "It's incumbent upon all Americans to rally around the
> leadership of this country in times of great crisis in the world when we
are
> the leader of the free world and not to incite the other side." I just
> heard another Republican senator say virtually the same thing this
morning.
> In other words, those of us who question and criticize the Bush
> administration's handling of the war of Iraq are aiding and abetting the
> enemy? Perhaps even being unpatriotic?
>
>
>
> Carl Westberg Jr.
>
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<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; It might be pretty ridiculous to try and quash dissent at any time.&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;But gee-whiz, what those fellows have said looks pretty&nbsp;tame compared to what that Liberal Democrat icon FDR did during wartime.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; His administration oversaw forced&nbsp;relocation of Japanese-Americans, surveillance of Americans of German and Italian origin, and a major Sedition trial of foreign policy critics. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Kennedy, LBJ, and trickydicky weren't angels when it came to critics either--and they had J. Edgar to help them right out with counter intelligence and surveillance against domestic foreign policy opponents. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp; So I guess those senators wannna just carry on a good ole Demican/Republicrat tradition!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; TL</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR><B><I>Rob Keenan &lt;benjamin_barker@hotmail.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">That dichotomy is pretty telling. And the funny thing is, if you look at our<BR>past history and the founding of this nation, it is our right and sacred<BR>honor to criticize a government when it no longer represents us.<BR><BR>In fact, here's s snippet of the manifesto I wrote July 4, when I was<BR>feeling particularly patriotic:<BR><BR>"I believe one can be patriotic and still criticize their government. I<BR>believe in the fundamental foundations of democracy, a system rooted in the<BR>belief that every person's voice must be heard. When one's voice is not<BR>heard, it is their sacred duty and obligation to speak louder, by whatever<BR>means necessary. I love this country for what it does right and I chastize<BR>it where it fails. I believe that had it not been for a group of ragtag<BR>political dissidents, this great nation would never have been founded -- I,<BR>for one, !
 am
 grateful to those outcasts from preventing me a life of eating<BR>blood pudding and trying to wrap my head around the rules of cricket."<BR><BR>ROB<BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Carl Westberg" <CARLWESTBERG846@HOTMAIL.COM><BR>To: <VISION2020@MOSCOW.COM><BR>Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 7:44 AM<BR>Subject: [Vision2020] Don't criticize Bush..<BR><BR><BR>&gt; Does anyone else find it disturbing that in the last couple of days,<BR>&gt; Republican senators have made statements such as this from Georgia's Saxby<BR>&gt; Chambliss: "It's incumbent upon all Americans to rally around the<BR>&gt; leadership of this country in times of great crisis in the world when we<BR>are<BR>&gt; the leader of the free world and not to incite the other side." I just<BR>&gt; heard another Republican senator say virtually the same thing this<BR>morning.<BR>&gt; In other words, those of us who question and criticize the Bush<BR>&gt; administration's handling of the war of Iraq are aiding and
 abetting the<BR>&gt; enemy? Perhaps even being unpatriotic?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Carl Westberg Jr.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; _________________________________________________________________<BR>&gt; Check out MSN PC Safety &amp; Security to help ensure your PC is protected and<BR>&gt; safe. http://specials.msn.com/msn/security.asp<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; _____________________________________________________<BR>&gt; List services made available by First Step Internet,<BR>&gt; serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<BR>&gt; http://www.fsr.net<BR>&gt; mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>&gt; ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ<BR>&gt;<BR><BR>_____________________________________________________<BR>List services made available by First Step Internet, <BR>serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <BR>http://www.fsr.net <BR>mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ</BLOCKQUOTE><p><hr size=1><font face=arial si!
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