[Vision2020] Re: Evolution and cruelty

Joshua Nieuwsma joshuahendrik@yahoo.com
Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:48:36 -0700 (PDT)


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Mr. Nielsen,
 
you are arguing for a moral standard. But if there is no life after death, then why have a moral standard? It definitely does not follow for you to want to live in harmony precisely because there isn't anything after it. 

There are answers to your objections about eternal life. Including the fact that science by definition cannot find out whether eternal life exists through experiment or analysis of the stars or the human body or anything, just as it cannot prove whether you have got a soul, or whether love exists, or anything else. Science proves nothing. It only discusses the purely metaphysical and draws conclusions based on the number of times something can be replicated or repeated. Your appeal to science shows that you are making a universal standard out of something that is clearly only capable of being a tool.
 
It is never morally wrong for the Creator to take a life, since He gave it freely in the first place. Life is not a right that we require of God. It is a gift, which is why it is wrong to take it unlawfully from someone else. The state does not give life, nor do parents, but God alone bestows the gift of life at conception. We indeed live in a proud and stubborn time when men question the acts of God Almighty and dispute His justice and mercy. 

If I appeal to chapter and verse, I am not arguing that chapter and verse were inspired. Similarly if I appeal to the 4th commandment, that is not claiming that God labeled it the 4th commandment. 
 
cheers,
 
Joshua Nieuwsma



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<DIV>Mr. Nielsen,</DIV>
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<DIV>you are arguing for a moral standard. But if there is no life after death, then why have a moral standard? It definitely does not follow for you to want to live in harmony precisely because there isn't anything after it. </DIV>
<DIV><BR>There are answers to your objections about eternal life. Including the fact that science by definition cannot find out whether eternal life exists through experiment or analysis of the stars or the human body or anything, just as it cannot prove whether you have got a soul, or whether love exists, or anything else. Science proves nothing. It only discusses the purely metaphysical and draws conclusions based on the number of times something can be replicated or repeated. Your appeal to science shows that you are making a universal standard out of something that is clearly only capable of being a tool.</DIV>
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<DIV>It is never morally wrong for the Creator to take a life, since He gave it freely in the first place.&nbsp;Life is not a right that we require of God. It is a gift, which is why it is wrong to take it unlawfully from someone else. The state does not give life, nor do parents, but God alone bestows the gift of life at conception. We indeed live in a proud and stubborn time when men question the acts of God Almighty and dispute His justice and mercy. <BR></DIV>
<DIV>If I appeal to chapter and verse, I am not arguing that chapter and verse were inspired. Similarly if I appeal to the 4th commandment, that is not claiming that God labeled it the 4th commandment. </DIV>
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<DIV>cheers,</DIV>
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<DIV>Joshua Nieuwsma</DIV></DIV><p><hr SIZE=1>
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