[Vision2020] Global Warming

TEX tex@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu
Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:41:28 -0700 (PDT)


60% of available energy? You are joking, right?

Tex
tex@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Troy Merrill wrote:

> Dan Carscallen wrote:   People can't keep blaming mankind for everything
> that's happening in the world.
>
> Mr. Carscallen,
>
> Then who is responsible?  There are large scale natural processes which are
> beyond human control.  These processes did not cause massive deforestation,
> ozone depletion, the greenhouse effect, nor do they capture for their
> exclusive benefit appproximately 60% of available energy.  Mankind does
> that.  Who is responsible?
>
> Troy Merrill
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Dredge" <sdredge@yahoo.com>
> To: <vision2020@moscow.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Global Warming
>
>
> > I heard the one about the volcanic eruptions as well.
> > I'm not convinced yet about warming/cooling cycles of
> > the planet.  The warming one is easy enough for me to
> > believe since we have a constant energy source beaming
> > down on us.  But what about the cooling cycle?  What
> > events occur to cool down the planet?  A while ago I
> > read about a theory that the last ice age was caused
> > by a large meteor that struck off the coast of the
> > Yucatan peninsula which triggered a series of volcanic
> > eruptions that resulted in the atmosphere being filled
> > with smoke/ash/dirt and essentially encompassing the
> > planet in near darkness for 6 months which resulted in
> > a nuclear winter.  It sounds plausable to me that this
> > type of event would cool down the planet and also
> > wreak havoc with the eco system - including wiping out
> > the dinosaurs.
> >
> > -Scott
> >
> >
> > --- Dan Carscallen <predator75@moscow.com> wrote:
> > > Didn't insult me.  I agreed, and saw the humor.
> > >
> > > I also support recycling (did my sorting this
> > > morning dark 'n early) and wouldn't mind if my
> > > pickup got better gas mileage, but we also all have
> > > to realize that we have very little control over or
> > > actual affect on this planet.  People can't keep
> > > blaming mankind for everything that's happening in
> > > the world.  I have read that volcanic eruptions do
> > > more to contribute to the greenhouse effect than
> > > anything mankind has done.  Of course, I have no
> > > websites or articles to back myself up, so anyone --
> > > *cough* Donovan Arnold *cough* ;^) -- can say I'm
> > > just blowing smoke.
> > >
> > > DC
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Tom Hansen
> > > To: Dan Carscallen ; vision2020@moscow.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 6:20 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Global Warming
> > >
> > >
> > > Mr. Carscallen -
> > >
> > > My posting was a humorous response to the topic, not
> > > to be taken seriously.  I am certain that most V2020
> > > subscribers can understand that.
> > >
> > > That said, I have not only supported recycling and
> > > reduced use of fossil fuels, I also participate in
> > > such programs (and have been doing so since my first
> > > class at UI in 1992)  My philosophy is that we are
> > > all on this rock together.
> > >
> > > I apologize if my attempt at humor insulted you.
> > >
> > > Tom Hansen
> > > Moscow, Idaho
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com
> > > [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On Behalf Of Dan
> > > Carscallen
> > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 6:24 PM
> > > To: vision2020@moscow.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Global Warming
> > >
> > >
> > >   Tom said:
> > >
> > >   >Well, you now what this means?
> > >
> > >   >No size restrictions and screw the limit!  Let's
> > > go fishing.
> > >
> > >
> > >   Agreed, Tom.
> > >
> > >   The earth used to be a lot warmer back in the time
> > > of the dinosaurs, and it's been a heckuva lot
> > > colder.  It's all cyclic, we just happen to be in
> > > between "ages".  Are we also supposed to keep the
> > > tectonic plates still because the continents
> > > shouldn't be moving either?
> > >
> > >   DC
> >
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