[Vision2020] Alphabet Soup Req.
John Harrell
johnbharrell@yahoo.com
Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:10:38 -0700 (PDT)
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The post from Joan Opyr regarding twister is amusing. And is a typical response from most
elitists.
The elitist believes that unless someone has all a bunch of alphabets after their name,
then they shouldn't be studied. The elitist also believes that alphabet soup can only be
delivered by an institution that has been "qualifed" by members within their own brand/can
of alphabet soup and with the appropriate alphabet soup letters after their name. If someone
from a different brand/can shows up, they refuse to mix, and their divisiveness shows up
very quickly.
This is one of the reasons the elitists refuse to listen to the Bible and Jesus. Doggone it,
where are all those letters after the authors names? Oh, I get it, I guess the letters GOD
doesn't qualify because GOD didn't get the "I AM" at the appropriate institution of alphabet
letters distribution diversity camps.
Elitists and their alphabet soup req. - the ultimate in divisiveness.
Cheers!
John Harrell, LOL, W.W.J.D., etc., N.E.L. yet? N.F.T.A.I.O.A.L.D.D.C.? Oh well...
(N.E.L. - Not Enough Letters; N.F.T.A.I.O.A.L.D.D.C. - Not From The Appropriate Institution Of Alphabet Letters Distribution Diversity Camps)
Joan Opyr <auntiestablishment@hotmail.com> wrote:
In defense of dear old Dad, Nate Wilson writes:
>There are two things to be pointed out here. The first is this: If Melynda
>is right, and Uncle Tom's Cabin and Roots are the authorities, then at
>worst my father is a poor historian.
The point, Nate, is not that your father is a poor historian; the point is
that he isn't a historian at all. Historians usually have academic training
in their chosen subject area. Even when they don't have the PhD (as in the
case of the great Barbara Tuchman), they've read widely, studied with
experts, and subjected their ideas and theories to the scrutiny of juried
publications and peer review. Your father is not a historian; he's a
polemicist, a Bill O'Reilly or a Rush Limbaugh, albeit on a much smaller
scale.
The argument that Doug is making in his writings on the old South is that
things weren't all that bad for black folks, and even on those rare
occasions when Massa fell short of the ideals of compassionate ownership,
there's still a Biblical case to be made in justifying the institution of
slavery. Like Melynda, many of us take issue with Doug's methods, his
conclusions, and his choice of topic. This is comic book history, Son. It
fits easily onto a quarter sheet with plenty of margin and room for a
Sea-Monkeys ad. Once again, why slavery? Why the old South? What does the
Confederacy have to do with the ideal practice of Christianity? It puzzles
me that I never seem to come across a Fundamentalist musing on the Sermon on
the Mount, arguably the single most important speech Jesus ever made
regarding his ideals and philosophy. Instead, they always seem to be
getting bogged down in Leviticus. It's a shame -- kind of like stopping in
Kissemmee-St. Cloud when you were really hoping for Disney World.
Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
PS: Entertaining as they are, I won't address your musings on evolution
here, Nate, except to say that if your father is no historian, he's no
scientist either. Don't talk to me about groin-stretching to make one's
points -- you're clearly limber enough to play Twister with the Cirque du
Soleil.
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<DIV>The post from Joan Opyr regarding twister is amusing. And is a typical response from most </DIV>
<DIV>elitists. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The elitist believes that unless someone has all a bunch of alphabets after their name, </DIV>
<DIV>then they shouldn't be studied. The elitist also believes that alphabet soup can only be </DIV>
<DIV>delivered by an institution that has been "qualifed" by members within their own brand/can </DIV>
<DIV>of alphabet soup and with the appropriate alphabet soup letters after their name. If someone </DIV>
<DIV>from a different brand/can shows up, they refuse to mix, and their divisiveness shows up </DIV>
<DIV>very quickly.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>This is one of the reasons the elitists refuse to listen to the Bible and Jesus. Doggone it,</DIV>
<DIV>where are all those letters after the authors names? Oh, I get it, I guess the letters GOD</DIV>
<DIV>doesn't qualify because GOD didn't get the "I AM" at the appropriate institution of alphabet</DIV>
<DIV>letters distribution diversity camps.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Elitists and their alphabet soup req. - the ultimate in divisiveness.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Cheers!</DIV>
<DIV>John Harrell, LOL, W.W.J.D., etc., N.E.L. yet? N.F.T.A.I.O.A.L.D.D.C.? Oh well...</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>(N.E.L. - Not Enough Letters; N.F.T.A.I.O.A.L.D.D.C. - Not From The Appropriate Institution Of Alphabet Letters Distribution Diversity Camps)</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Joan Opyr <auntiestablishment@hotmail.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">In defense of dear old Dad, Nate Wilson writes:<BR><BR>>There are two things to be pointed out here. The first is this: If Melynda <BR>>is right, and Uncle Tom's Cabin and Roots are the authorities, then at <BR>>worst my father is a poor historian.<BR><BR>The point, Nate, is not that your father is a poor historian; the point is <BR>that he isn't a historian at all. Historians usually have academic training <BR>in their chosen subject area. Even when they don't have the PhD (as in the <BR>case of the great Barbara Tuchman), they've read widely, studied with <BR>experts, and subjected their ideas and theories to the scrutiny of juried <BR>publications and peer review. Your father is not a historian; he's a <BR>polemicist, a Bill O'Reilly or a Rush Limbaugh, albeit on a much smaller <BR>scale.<BR><BR>The argument that Doug is making in his writings on the old South is !
that
<BR>things weren't all that bad for black folks, and even on those rare <BR>occasions when Massa fell short of the ideals of compassionate ownership, <BR>there's still a Biblical case to be made in justifying the institution of <BR>slavery. Like Melynda, many of us take issue with Doug's methods, his <BR>conclusions, and his choice of topic. This is comic book history, Son. It <BR>fits easily onto a quarter sheet with plenty of margin and room for a <BR>Sea-Monkeys ad. Once again, why slavery? Why the old South? What does the <BR>Confederacy have to do with the ideal practice of Christianity? It puzzles <BR>me that I never seem to come across a Fundamentalist musing on the Sermon on <BR>the Mount, arguably the single most important speech Jesus ever made <BR>regarding his ideals and philosophy. Instead, they always seem to be <BR>getting bogged down in Leviticus. It's a shame -- kind of like stopping in <BR>Kissemmee-St. Cloud when you were really hoping for Disney
World.<BR><BR>Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment<BR><BR>PS: Entertaining as they are, I won't address your musings on evolution <BR>here, Nate, except to say that if your father is no historian, he's no <BR>scientist either. Don't talk to me about groin-stretching to make one's <BR>points -- you're clearly limber enough to play Twister with the Cirque du <BR>Soleil.<BR><BR>_________________________________________________________________<BR>Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet <BR>Service. Try it FREE for one month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup<BR><BR>_____________________________________________________<BR>List services made available by First Step Internet, <BR>serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <BR>http://www.fsr.net <BR>mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ</BLOCKQUOTE><p><hr SIZE=1>
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