[Vision2020] What's Up With Wesley?

Donovan Arnold donovanarnold@hotmail.com
Sat, 11 Oct 2003 23:46:50 -0700


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<P>Tim,</P>
<P>I think you are confused. Latest polls put Clark in third place in NH (albeit a distant third). Clark is leading in Alabama, California, New York, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Texas, Arizona, and numerous other states (mostly southern). He is tied with Dean in Michigan and a close second to Edwards in South Carolina. And as you pointed out, he has a strong lead in the national polls.</P></DIV>
<P>"the campaign is reportedly divided"</P>
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<P>No, it isn't. It just appointed the members of his team. Yes, Donnie Flower did resign because he was suppose to be demoted to run the on-line effort. He is was going to be demoted because the Clinton Campaign Team is coming in to take over the campaign. He didn't want to be demoted from in charge of the entire campaign to just one segment of the campaign. John Hilko is taking over the on-line effort. Clark did not even have a campaign team, he just entered the race. Now he has just appointed them Wednesday.</P>
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<P>"and the other candidates used his recent praise for the Bush team and wishy-washy stance on the Iraq war as a targets in the last Demo debate"</P>
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<P>So what? They can attack Clark all they want. The only reason they are attacking Dean and Clark is because they are losing to one of the two in almost every state.(as I am typing this, just got work Clark is now winning in Minnesota), so they have to attack him. If Dean beats Gephardt in Iowa, Gephardt is gone. If Kerry gets second in NH (his home turf), and fourth in NC, behind Edwards, Clark and Dean, he is finished. Lieberman just cannot get above 4th in any single state with the exception of his home state. As Gephardt, Kerry, Edwards, and Lieberman fall away one by one Dean and Clark will outdistance the others that remain. If Dean is taken out Gephardt and Kerry have a chance. If Clark is gone Edwards and Lieberman have a chance. Gephardt, Lieberman, Kerry, and Edwards are the ones that did all the slamming on Clark and Dean in the debate (gee, shocking huh?). To me and others it is a sign of desperation. The more they attack, they more they show they know they are !
 losing and the further they fall in the polls.</P>
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<P>I really don't care that Clark said Powell, Rice, and Rumsfeld were a good foreign policy team. Back in May 2001 most people did. Powell still has a 75%+ approval rating. They may lie and be corrupt but that doesn't mean they are incompetent. This didn't hurt Ronald Reagan in 1980 and it is not going to hurt Clark in 2004.</P>
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<P>This is a rock- paper-scissors game. Bush beats Dean, Kerry beats Bush, Dean beats Kerry. Clark is the only one that can beat Bush and Kerry. The question is can Clark beat Dean? If he can, he is will be President. The main obstacle for Clark is beating Dean, not Bush. </P>
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<P><BR>Donovan J Arnold<BR><BR><BR></P>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: Tim Lohrmann <TIMLOHR@YAHOO.COM>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: vision2020@moscow.com 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: [Vision2020] What's Up With Wesley? 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 10:02:58 -0700 (PDT) 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Clark Supporters, 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt; What's the thinking of Clark backers with his 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;campaign right now? 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt; The latest polls show he's in a poor fifth place in 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;New Hampshire and apparently isn't doing well in Iowa 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;either. His campaign manager quit, the campaign is 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;reportedly divided and the other candidates used his 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;recent praise for the Bush team and wishy-washy stance 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;on the Iraq war as a targets in the last Demo debate. 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt; I even saw a report that his campaign is thinking 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;of not contesting Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;or any other state before Arizona. Isn't that sort 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;late to target a first good showing? 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt; Like Joe Lieberman, the only place Clark is doing 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;well is in national polls--polls that are meaningless 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;as far as securing delegates in the individual primary 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;states. 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt; What's next? 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt; TL 
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