[Vision2020] FM Improvement; another option
Bruce and Jean Livingston
jeanlivingston@turbonet.com
Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:42:55 -0700
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I should further add that on October 25 at 2:30 pm in City Council =
Chambers, there is a scheduled meeting of the vendors and, -- with =
respect to item #1 on the agenda -- other interested partie. The first =
topic of discussion per the notice to vendors is:
1.. Discussion regarding moving the market=20
1.. Vendor input=20
2.. Input from factions of the community (DBA) who seem interested =
in moving the market and those who are not. =20
>From this discussion will come a final report to be presented to MAC =
commissioners, city staff and council members.
As far as I am aware, the Downtown Business Association (or Moscow =
Downtown Association, as I have also heard it called), is presenting a =
plan to move the market, in part, to Main Street. Not having seen the =
presentation yet, I cannot address the specifics of the proposal. I am =
unaware of any serious proposal involving the Fairgrounds, though I =
suppose that would be fair game as well. =20
Bruce Livingston
----- Original Message -----=20
From: bill london=20
To: Bruce and Jean Livingston ; Vision2020 ; Deena Heath=20
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] FM Improvement; another option
Bruce-
I am glad you are not supportive of moving the market.
The key point is that (according to the EDC shopper survey in 2002) =
the #1 reason people come downtown to shop is the Farmers Market (this =
of course is for summer months--the #1 retail destination downtown all =
year round is the Moscow Food Co-op).
Moving the market endangers downtown --I think it is as simple as =
that.
BL
Bruce and Jean Livingston wrote:
I think it is fine to forward to the Moscow Arts Commission the idea of
moving the Farmer's Market from downtown to the fairgrounds, but I have =
to
say that I am fairly strongly opposed to the idea, in part based on the
notion that "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." I am in favor of
considering ideas to "tweak" the Market, but an idea that constitutes =
such a
radical change to the Market is going to have to marshal very strong
arguments for moving it to the Fairgrounds before I can support that
proposal.
Perhaps there could be an expansion of the Market, in terms of the time =
of
year, which might include special "November to March" Market sessions
(bi-weekly, monthly trials?) at the Fairgrounds for more arts and crafts
type sales, but a wholesale transplantation to the Fairgrounds of the
Farmer's Market as we know it is not something that makes sense to me.
Bruce Livingston
Commissioner, Moscow Arts Commission
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Seman" <FCS@moscow.com>
To: "Terry Johnson-Huhta" <thuhta@moscow.com>; "Vision2020"
<vision2020@moscow.com>
Cc: "Deena Heath" <dheath@ci.moscow.id.us>
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 9:27 AM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] FM Improvement; another option
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Terry,
Thank you for your response and thoughts on Farmer's Market. The fair
grounds does have a historic function very similar to the Market. Your
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idea
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has some good merits to it and I will forward it to the FM committee
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members
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for further consideration and discussion.
Best regards,
Mark
*** ***** ***
Mark & Heather Seman
Full Circle Studios
828 South Washington, Suite B
Moscow, Idaho 83843
v 208-883-3276
f 208-883-0112
FCS@Moscow.com
-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On
Behalf Of Terry Johnson-Huhta
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 7:43 AM
To: Mark Seman; Vision2020
Cc: Deena Heath
Subject: [Vision2020] FM Improvement; another option
Just a thought....but how about changing the venue of FM (Farmer's
=20
Market)?
=20
Move the market to the fair grounds.The fair grounds has plenty of space
=20
in
=20
a park like setting, lots of parking ( more to come), a ready made stage
area, bathrooms, a kitchen/grill and indoor facilities in case of
=20
inclement
=20
weather. Historically fair grounds were established to showcase
=20
agricultural
=20
products and marrying the market with the fairgrounds could be an ideal
solution. I have talked with some of the venders at the market and they
don't care where the market is located as long as they have space to
=20
sell
=20
their products and have customers. The fair grounds offers more space to
allow for more venders. The local bakeries and restaurants could set up
shop at the fairgrounds in the same way that Mikey's Gyro's does during
=20
the
=20
Fair. Saturday of the Fair would be the only time the fairgrounds would =
be
unavailable.
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<DIV>I should further add that on October 25 at 2:30 pm in City =
Council=20
Chambers, there is a scheduled meeting of the vendors and, -- with =
respect to=20
item #1 on the agenda -- other interested partie. The first topic =
of=20
discussion per the notice to vendors is:</DIV>
<DIV>
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<LI class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Discussion regarding =
moving the=20
market</SPAN></FONT>=20
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<LI class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Vendor =
input</SPAN></FONT>=20
<LI class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Input from factions of =
the=20
community<FONT color=3Dnavy><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: navy"> =
(DBA)</SPAN></FONT> who=20
seem interested in moving the market and those who are=20
not.</SPAN></FONT> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"> </SPAN></FONT></LI></OL></LI></OL>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-INDENT: 0.25in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From this discussion will =
come a=20
final report to be presented to MAC commissioners, city staff and =
council=20
members.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-INDENT: 0.25in"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-INDENT: 0.25in">As far as I am aware, =
the=20
Downtown Business Association (or Moscow Downtown Association, as I have =
also=20
heard it called), is presenting a plan to move the market, in part, to =
Main=20
Street. Not having seen the presentation yet, I cannot address the =
specifics of the proposal. I am unaware of any serious proposal =
involving=20
the Fairgrounds, though I suppose that would be fair game as well. =
</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-INDENT: 0.25in">Bruce Livingston</P>
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style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:london@moscow.com" title=3Dlondon@moscow.com>bill =
london</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:jeanlivingston@turbonet.com"=20
title=3Djeanlivingston@turbonet.com>Bruce and Jean Livingston</A> ; <A =
href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" =
title=3Dvision2020@moscow.com>Vision2020</A>=20
; <A href=3D"mailto:dheath@ci.moscow.id.us" =
title=3Ddheath@ci.moscow.id.us>Deena=20
Heath</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 03, 2003 =
2:04=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] FM =
Improvement;=20
another option</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Bruce-<BR>I am glad you are not supportive of moving =
the=20
market.<BR>The key point is that (according to the EDC shopper survey =
in 2002)=20
the #1 reason people come downtown to shop is the Farmers Market (this =
of=20
course is for summer months--the #1 retail destination downtown all =
year round=20
is the Moscow Food Co-op).<BR>Moving the market endangers downtown --I =
think=20
it is as simple as that.<BR>BL<BR><BR>Bruce and Jean Livingston =
wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"mid008901c389de$b8319cb0$92e8a8c0@mziah4d" =
type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">I think it is fine to forward to the Moscow =
Arts Commission the idea of
moving the Farmer's Market from downtown to the fairgrounds, but I have =
to
say that I am fairly strongly opposed to the idea, in part based on the
notion that "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." I am in favor of
considering ideas to "tweak" the Market, but an idea that constitutes =
such a
radical change to the Market is going to have to marshal very strong
arguments for moving it to the Fairgrounds before I can support that
proposal.
Perhaps there could be an expansion of the Market, in terms of the time =
of
year, which might include special "November to March" Market sessions
(bi-weekly, monthly trials?) at the Fairgrounds for more arts and crafts
type sales, but a wholesale transplantation to the Fairgrounds of the
Farmer's Market as we know it is not something that makes sense to me.
Bruce Livingston
Commissioner, Moscow Arts Commission
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Seman" <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E =
href=3D"mailto:FCS@moscow.com"><FCS@moscow.com></A>
To: "Terry Johnson-Huhta" <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E =
href=3D"mailto:thuhta@moscow.com"><thuhta@moscow.com></A>; =
"Vision2020"
<A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E =
href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><vision2020@moscow.com></A>
Cc: "Deena Heath" <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E =
href=3D"mailto:dheath@ci.moscow.id.us"><dheath@ci.moscow.id.us></A>=
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 9:27 AM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] FM Improvement; another option
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">Terry,
Thank you for your response and thoughts on Farmer's Market. The fair
grounds does have a historic function very similar to the Market. Your
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=3D""><!---->idea
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">has some good merits to it =
and I will forward it to the FM committee
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=3D""><!---->members
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">for further consideration =
and discussion.
Best regards,
Mark
*** ***** ***
Mark & Heather Seman
Full Circle Studios
828 South Washington, Suite B
Moscow, Idaho 83843
v 208-883-3276
f 208-883-0112
<A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-abbreviated =
href=3D"mailto:FCS@Moscow.com">FCS@Moscow.com</A>
-----Original Message-----
From: <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-abbreviated =
href=3D"mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com">vision2020-admin@moscow.com</=
A> [<A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-freetext =
href=3D"mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-admin@mosco=
w.com</A>]On
Behalf Of Terry Johnson-Huhta
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 7:43 AM
To: Mark Seman; Vision2020
Cc: Deena Heath
Subject: [Vision2020] FM Improvement; another option
Just a thought....but how about changing the venue of FM (Farmer's
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=3D""><!---->Market)?
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">Move the market to the fair =
grounds.The fair grounds has plenty of space
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=3D""><!---->in
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">a park like setting, lots =
of parking ( more to come), a ready made stage
area, bathrooms, a kitchen/grill and indoor facilities in case of
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=3D""><!---->inclement
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">weather. Historically fair =
grounds were established to showcase
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=3D""><!---->agricultural
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">products and marrying the =
market with the fairgrounds could be an ideal
solution. I have talked with some of the venders at the market and they
don't care where the market is located as long as they have space to
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=3D""><!---->sell
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">their products and have =
customers. The fair grounds offers more space to
allow for more venders. The local bakeries and restaurants could set up
shop at the fairgrounds in the same way that Mikey's Gyro's does during
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=3D""><!---->the
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">Fair. Saturday of the Fair =
would be the only time the fairgrounds would be
unavailable.
_____________________________________________________
List services made available by First Step Internet,
serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
<A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-freetext =
href=3D"http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</A>
<A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-freetext =
href=3D"mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</A>
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