[Vision2020] Statistics

John Moss johnmoss@moscow.com
Thu, 15 May 2003 22:50:51 -0700


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Citizens and mathematicians,

In a recent e-mail to Mr. Arnold, Mr. Nieuwsma asked Mr. Arnold to back =
up his statement that "5,000 people are killed every year in this =
country by guns, and most of them were accidents by people that were =
careless and irresponsible."  This is a fair request to make.

Over the last week, we have seen a plethera of appeals to statistics to =
prove a point.  Mr. Courtney states that MSD's student-to-teacher ratio =
is 15.22, and then Mr. Kaag states that "very few teachers in this =
district are teaching 15.22 students."  And Mr. Arnold presents us a =
statistic about careless deaths caused by guns, and then Mr. Nieuwsma =
presents us statisics of guns used in self-defense.

If possible, when appealing to a statistic on this forum, could you =
please try to state where the statistic came from?

As my earlier quip noted, anyone can make up statistics that sound good. =
 And, yes, other statistics are valid.  So when using statisics, please =
do your best to validate them.

Thank you all,

John Moss
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<DIV><FONT size=3D+0><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In a recent e-mail to =
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Nieuwsma asked Mr. Arnold to back up his statement that "5,000 people =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Over the last week, we have seen a =
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appeals to statistics to prove a point.&nbsp; Mr. Courtney states that =
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student-to-teacher ratio is 15.22, and then Mr. Kaag states that "very =
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teachers in this district are teaching 15.22 students."&nbsp; And =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If possible, when appealing to a =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As my earlier quip noted, anyone can =
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statistics that sound good.&nbsp; And, yes, other statistics are =
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when using statisics, please do your best to validate them.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank you all,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>John =
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