[Vision2020] Logos School

Sun, 11 May 2003 08:06:12 -0700

this is quite an eye-opener... thanks for the history lesson.
LJ

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From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On
Behalf Of John Harrell
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 12:11 AM
To: london@moscow.com; Vision2020
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Logos School

Bill,

History can be ugly. There are many blotches that people would rather
ignore and wish that they would go away. One of todays biggest
misconceptions
about history is the Norths complicity with slavery. But regardless of
our desire to hide our head in the sand and ignore the blotches such that
we can continue to idolize and worship the North, the North wasn't much
better than the South.

So, do you honor Abraham Lincoln, Ulysses S. Grant, and the North in
general?
Because most northerners did not view the African-American as equals. How
about todays Congressman? Some northern Congressman even today do not view
the African-American as equal. So, it was not just the South, but the North
also. To claim honor with the North and Abraham Lincoln is to believe in
racism. Is that what you believe? Are you a racist Bill?

For example,

1) Abraham Lincoln (R) was a "white separatist":

"What I would most desire would be the separation of the white and black
races."
- Speech at Springfield, Ill, July 17, 1858

2) Abraham Lincoln (R) believed "the negro" to be less than equal:

"I have said that I do not understand the Declaration to mean that all men
were
created equal in all respects. They are not our equal in color;"
- Speech at Springfield, Ill, July 17, 1858

3) Abraham Lincoln (R), again the "white separatist", forbids intermarrying,
and does not want "equality" for "negroes":

"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing
about in
any way the social and political equality of the white and black races--that
I am
not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor
of
qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I
will say
in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white
and
black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living
together on
terms of social and political equality."
- Speech at Cincinnati, Ohio, September 17, 1859

4) Abraham Lincoln (R), wasn't starting a war over slavery, many times he
said
things similar to the following:

"My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not
either to
save or destroy slavery..."
- Statement made in 1862, to Horace Greeley

5) Ulysses S. Grant was a slave owner

6) Sen. Robert R. Byrd (D), current Senator for W. VA, was a KKK member
The Democrats recently named a building after him; see what Byrd had to
say:

"[he would] never submit to fight beneath that banner [the American flag]
with a Negro by my side. Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old
Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved
land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest
specimen from the wilds."

7)..and Byrd is still allowed to represent this country? especially the
democrats?, how about this list of federal projects named after Byrd, not
bad for a democrat former KKK member:

"Some items funded by taxpayers  but still somehow named after
"Robert C. Byrd"  are: The Robert C. Byrd Highway; the Robert C. Byrd
Locks and Dam; the Robert C. Byrd Institute; the Robert C. Byrd Life
Long Learning Center; the Robert C. Byrd Honors Scholarship Program;
the Robert C. Byrd Green Bank Telescope; the Robert C. Byrd Institute
for Advanced Flexible Manufacturing; the Robert C. Byrd Federal
Courthouse; the Robert C. Byrd Health Sciences Center; the Robert C.
Byrd Academic and Technology Center; the Robert C. Byrd United
Technical Center; the Robert C. Byrd Federal Building; the Robert C. Byrd
Drive; the Robert C. Byrd Hilltop Office Complex; the Robert C. Byrd
Library; the Robert C. Byrd Learning Resource Center; the Robert C.
Byrd Rural Health Center......

8) Sen. Robert R. Byrd (D), current Senator for W. VA, former KKK member,
uses N* word; he used the phrase in an interview on Fox News Sunday,
March 2, 2003.

Many, many, more exist regarding the North's views of African-Americans.
But I stop here. The point is: neither the North nor the South have clean
hands. To claim honor with the North by claiming the Norths' virtue
regarding
racism does not do honor to history.

Cheers!
John Harrell

--- Bill London <london@moscow.com> wrote:
> I could take the administration of the Logos School much more seriously
> if they were more straightforward in their public pronouncements.
> For example, the editorial Friday in the Daily News by the Logos
> principal.
> That "editorial" did not respond to, or refer to, the published
> contraversies surrounding that school, like their denial of leadership
> opportunities to women or their honoring of the slave-holding American
> Confederacy.
> Instead, we were treated to a piece of pure fluff, a pat-on-the-back
> kind of feature that would have been more appropriately an
> advertisement.
> BL
>
>
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