[Vision2020] Re: [Vision2020] Idaho Public Schools 15-year Trends

Sunil Ramalingam sunilramalingam@hotmail.com
Thu, 08 May 2003 11:57:45 -0700


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<P>Dale, </P>
<P>Since you always generalize about 'liberals' and their views in these discussions about public education, is it your position that only liberals support public education?&nbsp; Or do you agree that there are people who would describe themselves as conservative who also support public schools?&nbsp;</P>
<P>Sunil</P>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: "Dale Courtney" <DALE@COURTNEYS.US>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: <VISION2020@MOSCOW.COM>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: [Vision2020] Re: [Vision2020] Idaho&nbsp;Public&nbsp;Schools&nbsp;15-year&nbsp;Trends 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 05:01:48 -0700 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Arnold wrote: 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Thinking that if we strip our schools of teachers won't effect the quality 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; of the education a child is receiving is just fooling oneself so they can 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; sleep at night instead of realizing that they are screwing children out of 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; an education that the generation before them worked and slaved over to 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;give 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; them when they were children in the public school system. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Would it not be great if people thought, "How can I selflessly help my 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; community" Rather then "How can I come up a with a graph, chart, or 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; statistic I can use to justify my lack of sacrificing for others and spend 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; more time, energy, and wealth, on myself" 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Interesting how liberals *refuse* to interact with ideas but rush to 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;judgment. Ah, the intolerance of the tolerant! 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;The bottom line: government school spending *after taxes* has risen by 80% 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;*per child* in the last 15 years in the state of Idaho; and state test 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;scores have continued to drop. Prove me wrong. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;*If* liberals really think that spending is the causal driver, then you 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;would have seen test scores rising, not falling with more money. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;*Clearly*, if you think that money is the problem (that money drives 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;achievement), then cutting the budget is the only solution. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;However, if you were to get your heads out of the sand, you'd see that money 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;is *not* the problem here. However, I'm sure you'd rather discuss form over 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;substance. How visionary of you. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Best, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Dale Courtney 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Moscow, Idaho 
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