[Vision2020] MSD financial condition
Van Deventer, Jack
jack@wsu.edu
Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:38:55 -0800
Why don't you compare things more comparable? Like MSD's budget vs. St.
Mary's, Logos, Pullman Christian, etc.? How can these other educational
entities provide a vastly better education with so much less money?
Q: "You make it sound like only education is spiraling out of control w/no
reason."
A: That MSD expenses are spiraling out of control is a given. Whatever the
reason, a superior education is certainly not one of MSD's outcomes.
Jack
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Jack Van Deventer
jack@wsu.edu
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Debbie Gray [mailto:dgray@uidaho.edu]
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:32 AM
> To: Dale Courtney
> Cc: vision2020@moscow.com
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] MSD financial condition
>
>
> Dale,
>
> I am posting this again, just to put the education budget in
> context with
> the other budgets. Notice that education increases are lower than any
> other category. You make it sound like only education is
> spiraling out of
> control w/no reason. Why are the other budgets growing so
> dramatically?
>
> >From the 'Idaho 2002 Fiscal Facts' available at:
> http://www.jfac.state.id.us/
>
> General Fund Appropriations (in millions of dollars)
> Annual% Total%
> By functional area FY1993 FY2002 Change Change
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Education 709.1 1264.0 5.9% 78.2%
> Health/Human Srvcs 168.2 378.2 8.4% 124.8%
> Public Safety 63.2 188.9 11.6% 198.9%
> Natural Resources 19.1 39.1 7.5% 105.2%
> Economic Development 5.9 20.6 13.4% 251.7%
> General Government 41.7 77.2 6.4% 85.2%
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Total $1007.1 $1967.9 6.9% 95.4%
> (may not add due to rounding)
>
>
> On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Dale Courtney wrote:
>
> > Matt,
> >
> > The problem is, the Idaho State Education Budget has grown
> at a rate of over
> > two times the inflation rate!
> >
> > Here's the scoop:
> >
> > * From 1988 ($367M) to 2003 ($985.5), the Idaho State
> Education budget
> > has increased 168.5%
> > * From 1988 to 2003, the inflation rate has been 57.04%
> >
> > What the liberals are lying about is that Idaho State has
> cut funding; or
> > that Idaho State has cut inflation-corrected funding. That's a lie.
> >
> > Best,
> > Dale
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com
> [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] On
> > Behalf Of Matt
> > Sent: Friday, 28 March, 2003 07:14
> > To: vision2020@moscow.com
> > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] MSD financial condition
> >
> >
> > That does not seem too far out of line, given inflation.
> The Dept of Labor
> > has a nifty inflation calculator at
> > <http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/statistics/inflation.htm>
> > http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/statistics/inflation.htm.
> Entering $1000 in
> > 1989 gives $1476 in 2003. Going the other way, a thousand
> dollars today was
> > just $677 in 1989. You only need to go back to 1985 to get
> to the alleged
> > 170% funding level quoted below.
> > --
> > M@ Lat: 46.74767 Lon: -116.99523 ^_^
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com
> [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] On
> > Behalf Of Dale Courtney
> > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 5:27 AM
> > State Funding has increased every year since 1989, and is
> now at 170% of the
> > 1989 funding level.
> >
> >
>
> Debbie
>
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