[Vision2020] "Free"? Public education is supposed to be "Free"?
Dan Carscallen
predator75@moscow.com
Tue, 25 Mar 2003 07:00:35 -0800
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John,=20
I never said it was free, I said it was "free" (i.e. we don't pay =
tuition, but I'm not so unedumacated that I don't realize I already pay =
for it -- heck, why do you think I use it?).
puttin' enough words in my own mouth,
DC
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----- Original Message -----=20
From: John Harrell=20
To: John Danahy ; Vision2020 ; predator75@moscow.com=20
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 9:19 PM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] "Free"? Public education is supposed to be =
"Free"?
Whoa!
John Danahy and Dan Carscallen are making the claim that Public =
Education
is supposed to free.
I help pay for public education, and not by my choice.
The money is forcibly taken from me and then given to only one of the =
five=20
educational systems that everyone here on this board has agreed that =
exist.
I still don't understand that when there are five choices that parents =
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make regarding educating their children, I am forced to help pay for one =
of=20
those. I dont get any choice as to where my money goes.
No, all education should be "tuition" based. Let the best educational=20
choice win!
I am pro-choice for education.
Cheers!
John Harrell
--- John Danahy <jdanahy@turbonet.com> wrote:
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> I did send an e-mail off to the district to try and get some answers =
to
> the questions posted here and others. No answer yet. Some of my
> questions were regarding the quality of summer school classes. For
> example, a student who fails second semester US History, and takes
> summer school to make it up, is he getting an equivalent class or some
> generic social studies classes designed to provide a passing grade?
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> I do not have a problem charging fees for classes offered outside of =
the
> regular school year offerings, but I have a severe problem with a
> district evaluating a student as deficient and assigning him to summer
> school, and then charging a fee. Never mind the obvious conflict of
> interest embedded in this framework, public school education is =
supposed
> to be free. I also have a real and negative reaction to the idea of
> charging JH and HS students for generic classes that supposedly pass =
as
> equivalent course work. But then, why should HS students pay for =
generic
> HS classes when they can pay for college courses any time of the year.
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> More importantly, I have a most negative reaction to the idea of any
> school district charging fees to make summer school "self sufficient"
> while other extra curricular activities are funded with education
> dollars. Clearly in this district education plays second fiddle.
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> John
> jdanahy@turbonet.com
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<DIV>John, </DIV>
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<DIV>I never said it was free, I said it was "free" (i.e. we don't pay =
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-- heck, why do you think I use it?).</DIV>
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<DIV>puttin' enough words in my own mouth,</DIV>
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<DIV>DC</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 24, 2003 9:19 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] "Free"? Public education is =
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"Free"?</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Whoa!<BR><BR>John Danahy and Dan Carscallen are making =
the claim=20
that Public Education<BR>is supposed to free.<BR><BR>I help pay for =
public=20
education, and not by my choice.<BR><BR>The money is forcibly taken from =
me and=20
then given to only one of the five <BR>educational systems that everyone =
here on=20
this board has agreed that exist.<BR><BR>I still don't understand that =
when=20
there are five choices that parents can <BR>make regarding educating =
their=20
children, I am forced to help pay for one of <BR>those. I dont get any =
choice as=20
to where my money goes.<BR><BR>No, all education should be "tuition" =
based. Let=20
the best educational <BR>choice win!<BR><BR>I am pro-choice for=20
education.<BR><BR>Cheers!<BR>John Harrell<BR><BR><BR>--- John Danahy =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:jdanahy@turbonet.com">jdanahy@turbonet.com</A>> =
wrote:<BR>>=20
<BR>> I did send an e-mail off to the district to try and get some =
answers=20
to<BR>> the questions posted here and others. No answer =
yet. Some=20
of my<BR>> questions were regarding the quality of summer school=20
classes. For<BR>> example, a student who fails second semester =
US=20
History, and takes<BR>> summer school to make it up, is he getting an =
equivalent class or some<BR>> generic social studies classes designed =
to=20
provide a passing grade?<BR>> <BR>> I do not have a problem =
charging fees=20
for classes offered outside of the<BR>> regular school year =
offerings, but I=20
have a severe problem with a<BR>> district evaluating a student as =
deficient=20
and assigning him to summer<BR>> school, and then charging a fee. =
Never mind=20
the obvious conflict of<BR>> interest embedded in this framework, =
public=20
school education is supposed<BR>> to be free. I also have a =
real and=20
negative reaction to the idea of<BR>> charging JH and HS students for =
generic=20
classes that supposedly pass as<BR>> equivalent course work. But =
then, why=20
should HS students pay for generic<BR>> HS classes when they can pay =
for=20
college courses any time of the year.<BR>> <BR>> More importantly, =
I have=20
a most negative reaction to the idea of any<BR>> school district =
charging=20
fees to make summer school "self sufficient"<BR>> while other extra=20
curricular activities are funded with education<BR>> dollars. =
Clearly=20
in this district education plays second fiddle.<BR>> <BR>> =
John<BR>> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:jdanahy@turbonet.com">jdanahy@turbonet.com</A><BR>> =
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