[Vision2020] Now we have come to war

Ted Moffett ted_moffett@hotmail.com
Thu, 20 Mar 2003 19:59:44 +0000


Luminaries:

Sadly, a quick end to this war will not happen.  The US will militarily take 
Iraq, of course, leading to a long term mess of trying to restructure and 
stabilize the area.  Iraq is just one part of the US agenda of remaking the 
middle east.  The "war" in the middle east will continue for decades.  I'm 
oversimplifying to be brief, but though many people make an effort to not 
cast the US war on Iraq as a war against Islam, in part it is, at least 
against the "extremist" position of Islam that stands against the equally 
"extremist" opposition of several other religions.

Hundreds of millions of Islamic believers around the world perceive this war 
as against Islam.  The political, social and ideological complexities 
involved make it certain that this war is sowing the seeds of future hatred 
and violence.  I'm sorry if what I am going to say insults anyone, but 
religious fundamentalism is involved in so much hatred and violence, 
including that 9/11 attacks, how can any reasonable person think that any 
fundamentalist religion should be off limits to criticism?

Ted




>From: "Carl Westberg" <carlwestberg846@hotmail.com>
>To: mushroom@moscow.com, vision2020@moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Now we have come to war
>Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 07:30:11 -0800
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>Those of us who have been and remain opposed to this war find ourselves in 
>the odd position of wanting the same results President Bush does, a quick, 
>decisive end.  Unfortunately, there will be those who will use a simple 
>equation regarding support or non-support of what has begun. 1. Not 
>supporting this action equals 2. Not supporting our troops equals 3. Not 
>being patriotic.  I agree with Don Coombs.  Of course we want our troops to 
>come through this with with absolute minimal injury.  We wish the same for 
>innocent Iraqi citizens.  We who continue to oppose this war are no less 
>patriotic than those who advocate it.  I believe our reasons for opposition 
>are based on patriotism, not the lack of it.  May this end quickly and 
>well.                                                                       
>                                                                      Carl 
>Westberg Jr.
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>>From: Mushroom <mushroom@moscow.com>
>>To: vision2020@moscow.com
>>Subject: [Vision2020] Now we have come to war
>>Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 18:35:40 -0800
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>>Now we have come to war, and it is time to say the obvious:
>>Every one of us, I suspect, wants every one of our troops to
>>come home safely.
>>
>>That is not the same thing as believing the war is
>>justified. This country has chosen to spend more on military
>>weaponry than most of the rest of the world combined.
>>
>>And our president has chosen to attack a country that posed
>>no threat to us or others, although our president again and
>>again pretended that it did.
>>
>>Instead of war, we could have fed the hungry in the world
>>and given treatment to the ill in our country who had no
>>healthcare, but that was not the decision taken by our
>>leaders.
>>
>>Now the first thing we need to face is hoping and doing
>>everything we can to bring our troops home safely. After
>>that, perhaps we can pay some attention to other needs?
>>
>>Don Coombs
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