[Vision2020] Amazonian Goddesses Do Battle!
Mike Curley
curley@turbonet.com
Wed, 12 Mar 2003 21:34:16 -0800
<color><param>0100,0100,0100</param>Ted:
I thought your original attack of a religious group was
inappropriate on this list regardless of how much I might
disagree with the philosophy or practices of the religious
group. I was offended by your characterizations, finger-
pointing, and labeling as I would have been had you
attacked my Jewish, atheist, Muslim, agnostic, Buddhist,
or other (non-"fundamentalist") Christian friends. This is
indeed a public list, but I don't think that means that
anyone you want to criticize, and any way you want to
criticize them, is fair game. However, since no one ever
seems to want to take the continuing religious philosophy
discussions off list, I would just ask one thing. Please
retain the "subject" thread in continuing posts (amazonian
goddesses) so that the multitude of us who want can
readily identify and delete the messages. Thank you.
On 13 Mar 03, at 3:59, Ted Moffett wrote:
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Jacob et. al.
No, I do not mean school of thought. I mean direct
involvement of human beings connected to Logos school
and
the local Trinitarians, who are also involved in Bonham
boxing and lacrosse, who use their connections to Logos
and
a certain local church, to promote the goals, beliefs or
practices that they want to see promoted in an
educational
setting. One of these beliefs appears to limit girls access
to boxing and lacrosse. If I am wrong, I would be glad to
be corrected.
Though you may technically be correct in your declaration
that the Bonham boxing and lacrosse clubs are not a formal
part of Logos school curriculum, you are most disingenuous
in the rest of your statement that the views of Trinitarians
have nothing to do with the goals, beliefs or practices of
Logos school. Sounds like a lawyer talking. You know full
well that Logos school embodies goals, beliefs or practices
that do indeed have connections to the Trinitarians in
Moscow.
You know full well that informally Logos school does have
connections to the Bonham boxing or Lacrosse club. And my
charge of sexism still stands regarding these informal
connections to Logos, local Trinitarians, and the Bonham
boxing and lacrosse clubs.
You might answer the question regarding why girls are not
allowed to participate in the Bonham boxing or Lacrosse
clubs. If they are allowed to participate, I stand
corrected. Otherwise my observation and commentary remains
the same.
If they want to limit girls access to certain sports, just
admit that is what they are doing, don't hide behind
technicalities.
Ted
<color><param>7F00,0000,0000</param>>From: "Jacob Spencer" <<spencerjt@wlu=
.edu>
>To: <<mghuskey@hotmail.com>, <<ted_moffett@hotmail.com>,
><<eevans@moscow.com>,
> <<dkaag@turbonet.com>
>CC: <<vision2020@moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Amazonian Goddesses Do Battle!
>Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:33:41 -0500
>
>Ted, et. al.
>
>By "school" I assume you mean "school of thought." If you
>mean Logos school, I believe you have your facts wrong.
>Logos school, as I have been told, had nothing to do with
>either the Bonham Boxing Club, nor with the Bonham Lacrosse
>Club other then to rent their facilities to the former. In
>addition, the viewpoints of the "trinitarians" on this
>list, have nothing whatsoever to do with the stated goals,
>beliefs, or practices of Logos school.
>
>
>For pity's sake, make a distinction between a Lacrosse club
>and a school.
>
>Jacob Spencer
>
> >>> "Ted Moffett" <<ted_moffett@hotmail.com> 03/12/03
> >>> 10:25PM >>>
>
>Ed, et. al.
>
>The children for whom these personal choices are being made
>and "freely" taken by adults, really have limited access to
>freedom of choice. If the educational programs of a school
>are limiting the development of another human being, it is
>of concern to everyone.
>
>Give what a rest? Objecting to a sexist agenda in a school
>in our community?
>
>This is fair game for commentary. "Give it a rest?" Ha!
>
>Ted
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: eevans@moscow.com
> >To: "Ted Moffett" <<ted_moffett@hotmail.com>,
> >mghuskey@hotmail.com, dkaag@turbonet.com,
> >vision2020@moscow.com Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Amazonian
> >Goddesses Do Battle! Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 16:43:27 GMT
> >
> >Ted Moffett wrote:
> > > The very suggestion that Trinitarians' would model
> > > their sports
>programs
> >on
> > > the government school regulations mandating women's
> > > sports is
> >unthinkable.
> >
> >And so what? This is just an example of people freely
> >making personal
>
> >choices
> >for themselves and their children. Nobody is forcing
> >these folks to do
>
> >this.
> >Give it a rest and enjoy the little freedom and diversity
> >we have left
>in
> >this
> >country.
> >
> ><<snip>
> >
> >Cheers,
> >-Ed Evans
> >
> >
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