[Vision2020] History and experience

[Don Kaag]

Tom:

O.K, O.K., so I never got that far nothwest.

I never, thank God, got to Khe Sanh.  As far as I know it didn't even 
exist in 1964-65.

But even though I tended to look at the "little war", a thousand klicks 
square, on my topo maps, I know that Vietnam does NOT have a border 
with Thailand!  Laos is in the way.

Don K.

On Thursday, March 6, 2003, at 11:11 AM, Thomas Hansen wrote:

> Minor geography lesson, Mr. Kaag.  Khe Sanh is NOT in the Central 
> Highlands.
> The Central Highlands of Vietnam are bordered by Pleiku to the south, 
> Mang
> Yang Pass to the east, the Thai border to the west, and Hue to the 
> north.
> Khe Sanh is further north.
>
> If you are going to tell a story, at least get your geography correct.
>
> Tom Hansen
> SFC, U.S. Army (Retired)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joan Opyr [mailto:auntiestablishment@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 9:13 AM
> To: dkaag@turbonet.com; vision2020@moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] History and experience
>
>
> Don Kaag writes:
>> As for Wilfred Owen... at least he knew what he was writing about.  
>> He had
>> "been there and done that".  And that means for all of your English 
>> degree,
>
>> you will never truly understand his poetry.  You don't have the 
>> referents.
>
> I'm puzzled by this assertion, especially coming from a history 
> teacher.
> You of all people should know that we needn't live a particular 
> experience
> to have an understanding of it.  This is why we developed language in 
> the
> first place, so we could tell one another.  It's so much more 
> convenient to
> say, "Watch out, there's a cave bear inside," than to send each 
> individual
> member of the tribe to look for him or herself.
>
> I wasn't at the Battle of the Somme, Mr. Kaag.  Neither were you.  
> Lucky for
>
> us, then, that we have Wilfred Owen and Siegfried Sassoon.  They spoke 
> for
> the men in the trenches to an audience of the people who sent them 
> there.
>
> This is why Wilfred Owen decided to enlist: "I came out in order to 
> help
> these boys--directly by leading them as well as an officer can; 
> indirectly,
> by watching their sufferings that I may speak of them as well as a 
> pleader
> can. I have done the first" (October, 1918).
>
> Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
>
>
>
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