[Vision2020] MSD Pay and Tenure--a reply
thansen@moscow.com
thansen@moscow.com
Fri, 27 Jun 2003 23:53:33 GMT
Very well put, Mr. Arnold. I agree with you 100%. Dale Courtney is (to me, a
member of the Oh No Group, the people that stand around something drastic and
say, "Oh no. Oh no.".
Take care,
Tom Hansen
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> <P>Dale,</P>
> <P><STRONG><U><EM>You keep on with the statistics all you want, but you
provide no
answers of cutting the budget without cutting opportunities for children. I
would be
all for "maximizing the dollars we spend" on education. But you have not given
one
iota of evidence that this is possible. Show in detail to the people of
Vision2020 a
precise plan of how you can cut spending and still provide the same services to
children
and educators.</EM></U></STRONG></P></DIV>
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> <P>The only thing you have done is prove that inflation is ramped in
education and that
you can cut programs and save money, in your own words "DUH!". Everyone knows
that you can cut education and save taxpayers money. BIG DEAL!. We can also cut
fire
department spending, law enforcement, road maintenance, parks, and sewage
maintenance. SO what, yes ya can! But can you do it without cutting services,
if you
can, then write it down, otherwise, you are doing nothing but whining and not
providing anything new. <BR><BR>You wrote: "I will continue
to press this point until the liberals acknowledge what the rest of us have
known all
along -- this isn't *really* about educating children."</P>
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> <P>Dale, you are not pressing any point. You are parroting statistics. This
proves
nothing. You want statistics I will give you some. Moscow ranks second in
spending but
also ranks second in the state for educational achievement. 100% of all schools
that
follow your ideology of slashing the budget for schools have been shut
down at least one day a week or had to slash opportunities to for children.
Teachers
with a Masters degree and ten years experience make 1/3 what their counterparts
makes in
the open market. Idaho spends less then 84% of the 50 states on education per
pupil.
100% of the people that don't like the MSD can move out of the district and pay
nothing to
it if they feel it is that horrible. </P>
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> <P>Here are some other Facts for you to chew on Dale:</P>
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> <P>Moscow is the most educated County in the State</P>
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> <P>A child born in Moscow is more likely to achieve a higher level of
education</P>
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> <P>A child born and raised in Moscow is more likely to live longer</P>
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> <P>A child born and raised in Moscow is more likely not to do drugs</P>
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> <P>Moscow is the most liberal and second most Democratic County
in Idaho</P>
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> <P>Moscow is the most educated City in Idaho</P>
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> <P>Moscow residents are more likely to pass bond levies to support
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> <P>A Moscow educator can get a job just one mile West and get paid more</P>
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> <P>Dale, yes, there are a great deal of things that makes Moscow different
then
the rest of the educational systems in Idaho. But I think good! Moscow is not
the
same as the rest of Idaho and that is precisely why I love it and what makes it
my home. I don't want Moscow to be like the average city in Idaho for education
like you
are wanting to do. Have you ever been to an average city in Idaho? That is not
what I
want Moscow to look and behave like. I want all of our teachers to make 20-75K
a year. I
think that is great. It is nice to have teachers make a livable wage in
a decent city
where they can let their children play in the numerous parks we have without
fear of them
inhaling industrial fumes or being the subject of drug dealings, murder, or
being
abducted. I love this city, and think it is fine if the money going to schools
and not
going directly to Math, English, Science, or Reading. There are so many other
things that give kids opp!
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support these
other programs and give as much to the children and the educators and support
them as much as we can. I have no doubt that we could cut spending and at the
same time
raise scores for children on testing. However, there is more to education and
being
prepared for the real world and to encourage children that learning is not K-12,
but the journey of a lifetime. </P>
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> <P>Dale, if you truly want to live in a city that is like any other city in
Idaho, I
strongly suggest you move there. You think they are all better, then why not
move
to any other one. The People of Moscow support education because education is
what
this city is all about. We are not going to cut, we are going to increase
spending for,
provide more opportunities for the children, and encourage them to expand on
their own. No
other city in Idaho does this as well. We are NOT good at it because we are
looking
for ways to slash opportunities for children or the budget, we are good at it
because we understand the education is expensive and that the inflation is
high to maintain those standards. <EM><STRONG><U>You keep on with the
statistics all you want, but you provide no answers of cutting the budget
without cutting opportunities for children. I would be all for "maximizing the
dollars we spend" on education. But you have not given one iota o!
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plan of
action that is more then just "cut the budget. Thanks!</U></STRONG></EM></P>
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> <P><EM>Donovan J Arnold</EM></P>
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