[Vision2020] enough already
Dale Courtney
dale@courtneys.us
Mon, 23 Jun 2003 17:15:56 -0700
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Tom,
You may want to review some recent court cases where ISPs (in both the =
USA and UK) have been held liable.=20
a.. http://www.vnunet.com/Features/80998
b.. =
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/tech/DailyNews/demon000331_segan.html
I can provide more if you are interested.=20
I'm not saying that an ISP should be responsible for what is hosted on =
their hardware. However, the courts are thinking that ISPs are more like =
newspapers.=20
Best,
Dale Courtney
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Tom Hansen=20
To: Dale Courtney ; vision2020@moscow.com=20
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 17:11
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] enough already
I definitely agree that Mr. Stambler should be removed from this =
listserve. He was "ignorable" earlier. But now that he mentions names, =
it has gone a bit past the ignoring stage.
Also, I seriously doubt that FSR can be held liable for comments made =
on this listserve. If ISP's could be held liable for comments made on =
their listserve, could you even begin to imagine the potential law suits =
originating in chat rooms?
If I were a "damaged" party from any of these comments by Mr. =
Stambler, I wouldn't bring action against FSR. Why?? I would seek =
legal counsel and pursue Mr. Stambler.
It is just that simple.
Take care,
Tom Hansen
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Tom,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>You may want to review some recent court cases where =
ISPs (in=20
both the USA and UK) have been held liable. </FONT></DIV>
<UL>
<LI><FONT size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.vnunet.com/Features/80998">http://www.vnunet.com/Featu=
res/80998</A></FONT></LI>
<LI><FONT size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D"http://abcnews.go.com/sections/tech/DailyNews/demon000331_segan.h=
tml">http://abcnews.go.com/sections/tech/DailyNews/demon000331_segan.html=
</A></FONT></LI></UL>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I can provide more if you are interested. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I'm not saying that an ISP <U>should</U> be =
responsible for=20
what is hosted on their hardware. However, the courts are thinking that =
ISPs are=20
more like newspapers. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Best,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dale Courtney</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dthansen@moscow.com href=3D"mailto:thansen@moscow.com">Tom =
Hansen</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Ddale@courtneys.us=20
href=3D"mailto:dale@courtneys.us">Dale Courtney</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dvision2020@moscow.com=20
href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 23, 2003 =
17:11</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] =
enough=20
already</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN class=3D888290500-24062003>I =
definitely=20
agree that Mr. Stambler should be removed from this listserve. =
He was=20
"ignorable" earlier. But now that he mentions names, it has gone =
a bit=20
past the ignoring stage.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D888290500-24062003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D888290500-24062003>Also, I=20
seriously doubt that FSR can be held liable for comments made on this=20
listserve. If ISP's could be held liable for comments made on =
their=20
listserve, could you even begin to imagine the potential law suits =
originating=20
in chat rooms?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D888290500-24062003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D888290500-24062003>If I were a=20
"damaged" party from any of these comments by Mr. Stambler, I wouldn't =
bring=20
action against FSR. Why?? I would seek legal counsel and =
pursue=20
Mr. Stambler.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D888290500-24062003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D888290500-24062003>It is just that=20
simple.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D888290500-24062003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D888290500-24062003>Take=20
care,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D888290500-24062003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D888290500-24062003>Tom=20
Hansen</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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