[Vision2020] Internet Etiquette on Public Archived List Serves

[Ted Moffett]

Bruce et. al.

No stone knives and bearskins are advocated.

Tom Hansen's suggestion that Dale get his own storage where he can make 
available large files via a link on vision2020 seems reasonable to me.  One 
of Dale's graphs posted on vision2020 was a whopping 1.5 megs, though Dale 
said this was a mistake.  The day this graph was sent it shut my e-mail 
down!  Hotmail has only 2 megs of available space.

Can you imagine what would happen to many people's e-mail inbox if numerous 
vision2020 participants posted files this large?  You seem to disregard the 
fact this is a public archived list serve. The download time is not the 
issue.   Not everyone using vision2020 has huge e-mail inbox storage 
capacity, this is the point.  And vision2020 posts are also archived, so 
somewhere there is storage for the archived vision2020 list.

Dale's recent post in question that I suggested did not need to be as large 
as it was, could easily have been sent as a much smaller plain text e-mail 
and still provided Dale with the means to make all the wonderful points he 
made.

It is common internet etiquette to keep public archived postings on usenet 
etc. to the smallest size needed to communicate what is required.

I easily could post much "fancier" e-mails, but I deliberately chose the 
plain text format to reduce e-mail size.  If I had some very good reason to 
use a more HTML intensive e-mail format I might.

Dale is of course free to do whatever he wishes with the absence of any 
monitor for vision2020.

Ted

>From: "Bruce and Jean Livingston" <jeanlivingston@turbonet.com>
>To: <vision2020@moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] First Step Tech Examines Dale's 38 K Post
>Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 00:43:58 -0700
>
>I enjoyed reading Mr. Courtney's graphs, which were not especially large
>files -- as far as downloading them by my dial-up telephone link to 
>Turbonet
>was concerned -- and I would recommend that he and others continue using
>them.  His message downloaded far quicker than a picture -- which is a much
>larger drain/bottleneck in terms of bandwidth -- and I think the graphics
>are better than a word description.
>
>How much slower than my 56 k telephone modem can the mechanism for
>downloading be in the computers of you complainers?  A primitive, early to
>mid '90s modem at 28k would only be half as slow as mine.
>
>Mr. Courtney and I don't always agree, but he expresses himself clearly and
>thoughtfully, and in my opinion, his messages, even with judiciously chosen
>graphics, are appropriate for this list.  Frankly, I'd rather read his
>presentations, even if I disagree with them, than spend as much time as I 
>do
>hitting the delete button to avoid reading some of the repetitive posters
>who so love to see themselves in print.
>
>I recommend that we not revert to stone knives and bearskins.
>
>Bruce Livingston
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dale Courtney" <dale@courtneys.us>
>To: <vision2020@moscow.com>
>Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 6:55 PM
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] First Step Tech Examines Dale's 38 K Post
>
>
>| Sigh,
>|
>| If it is the desire of the list that we shift to text-based Email
>(something
>| that hasn't been the standard since RTF and HTML Email were available 8
>| years ago), I will comply.  But we'll be the only list in the world that
>| reverts back 5+ generations in Internet technology. :(
>|
>| However, there are things that can only be conveyed to many people via
>| graphs and colors.
>|
>| Perhaps my graphs were too effective?
>|
>| Best,
>| Dale
>|
>|
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