[Vision2020] ANOTHER National Democrat on Iraq
Sunil Ramalingam
sunilramalingam@hotmail.com
Wed, 23 Jul 2003 21:10:45 -0700
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Of course Kerry is trying to have it both ways. But it's silly to preten=
d the Democrats are some sort of monolithic, single-minded party. If the=
y were, they'd be in power right now.
Tim, let go of the Democrats long enough to answer this question: Do you=
think the Bush Administration has been honest, either in its buildup tow=
ards war, or since that time, in presenting its rationales for the invasi=
on of Iraq? Since they're in charge now, wouldn't you agree that it migh=
t be more important to look at what they're doing, rather than focusing o=
n Bill Clinton's groin? I for one would rather look elsewhere, and at it=
ems with more significance.
Sunil Ramalingam
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Lohrmann
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 7:52 PM
To: thansen@moscow.com
Cc: vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] ANOTHER National Democrat on Iraq
Tom,
Do the politics of the messenger mean that Kerry
didn't make the statement?
TL
--- Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com> wrote:
> Of course, one must realize that John McCaslin
> stands slightly to the right
> of Rush Limbaugh as relfected in the articles
> authored by him at:
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>
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/johnmccaslin/archive.shtml
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> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
> =20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com
> [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On
> > Behalf Of Tim Lohrmann
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 6:09 PM
> > To: vision2020@moscow.com
> > Subject: [Vision2020] ANOTHER National Democrat on
> Iraq
> >
> >
> > Visionaries,
> > The Democrats' Iraq stances are looking
> > increasingly schizophrenic, no?
> > TL
> >
> > >
> > > INSIDE THE BELTWAY
> > > By John McCaslin
> > >
> ----------------------------------------------------
> > > KERRY'S WAR
> > >
> > > Suffice it to say that Democratic
> presidential
> > > hopeful John Kerry has made "Iraqgate" the theme
> of
> > > his campaign.
> > >
> > > On virtually every stump he's stood on this
> > > week, the Massachusetts Democrat has complained
> that
> > > President Bush sidestepped the congressionally
> > > approved path to war by bypassing the United
> > > Nations, by not building an international
> coalition,
> > > and simply by not doing what it was that he had
> > > promised to do (actually, one could argue that
> the
> > > senator is wrong on all three counts).
> > >
> > > Forget that Mr. Kerry voted in favor of the
> > > Iraq war resolution. He did so, he now says,
> with
> > > the understanding that Mr. Bush would exhaust
> every
> > > remedy first. What was the big hurry, in other
> > > words.
> > >
> > > But let's revisit Nov. 17, 1997, when
> nobody
> > > else in Washington except the Inside the Beltway
> > > column led with an item headlined, "Finish the
> > > mission."
> > >
> > > "Debate on whether to take out Saddam
> Hussein,
> > > the Iraqi strongman, is over as far as one
> > > Democratic senator is concerned," or so we had
> > > written.
> > >
> > > "Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts is
> calling
> > > for a 'strong' military attack in response to
> the
> > > Iraqi leader's 'horrific objective of amassing a
> > > stockpile of weapons of mass destruction.'B "
> > >
> > > Weapons of mass destruction? That's what
> Mr.
> > > Kerry called them.
> > >
> > > "As the senator points out, military might
> is
> > > the only language Saddam knows B=17 and fears.
> 'Saddam
> > > Hussein should pay a grave price, in a currency
> that
> > > he understands and values, for his unacceptable
> > > behavior,' says Mr. Kerry. 'This should not be a
> > > strike consisting only of a handful of cruise
> > > missiles hitting isolated targets primarily of
> > > presumed symbolic value. But how long this
> military
> > > action might continue and how it may escalate
> ...
> > > and how extensive it would reach are for the
> [White
> > > House National] Security Council and our allies
> to
> > > know and for Saddam Hussein to find out!'B "
> > >
> > > Just as you wished, Senator.
> > >
> >
> >
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re, they'd be in power right now.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Tim, let g=
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