[Vision2020] CLINTON SAYS BUSH MISTAKE UNDERSTANDABLE

Tim Lohrmann timlohr@yahoo.com
Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:38:29 -0700 (PDT)


Carl,
    I'm sorry if I implied all Democrats were
Clintonistas. The "/" I put between the terms "Loyal
Democrats" and "Clintonista" were meant to show that
these were two different clans. I should have used the
term "and" instead of the "/" to make myself clearer.
(Does this remind you of Clinton's statement that "it
depends on what the meaning of "is" is?)
   But you can't deny that many Loyal Demos were the
first to support and defend ole Billy boy and algore
during their many ethically challenged fundraising and
legal adventures.
  Is it time now for Democrats to heave him overboard
and "distance" themselves from him or maybe even
(gasp) "move on" from the Clinton era?
    TL


--- Carl Westberg <carlwestberg846@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Bill Clinton made the comment during an 80th
> birthday celebration for his 
> old rival Bob Dole.  It may well have been made in
> the spirit of "reaching 
> out".  Are all Democrats or independents who voted
> for Bill Clinton 
> "Clintonistas"?  I voted for him twice, and also
> disagreed with some of his 
> actions while in the White House.  I disagree with
> his defense of Bush now.  
> But, as the quote goes, "I don't belong to any
> organized party, I'm a 
> Democrat."  To suggest that we all somehow march in
> lockstep with one 
> another is like saying that all conservatives adhere
> to the rantings of Ann 
> Coulter.                                            
>                         
>                                                     
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>                                                     
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>                                                     
>      Carl Westberg Jr.
> 
> 
> >From: Tim Lohrmann <timlohr@yahoo.com>
> >To: vision2020@moscow.com
> >Subject: [Vision2020] CLINTON SAYS BUSH MISTAKE
> UNDERSTANDABLE
> >Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:41:11 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Visionaries,
> >    How do all you loyal Democrat/Clintonistas
> explain
> >ole Bill's taking up for Dub?
> >    Think he's trying to embarrass some of the
> Democrat
> >Pres. candidates he doesn't like? Why would he do
> >that? Is he trying to make sure that W is
> re-elected
> >so his wife won't have a sittind Democrat obstacle
> >when she runs in '08?
> >    How do you analyze?
> >    TL
> >
> >CLINTON SAYS BUSH'S URANIUM MISTAKE IS
> UNDERSTANDABLE
> >Copyright İ 2003 Nando Media
> >Copyright İ 2003 AP Online
> >
> >The Associated Press
> >WASHINGTON (July 22, 7:07 p.m. ADT) - President
> Bush's
> >erroneous reference to an Iraqi-Africa uranium link
> >was understandable, former President Clinton said
> >Tuesday, in part because Saddam Hussein's regime
> had
> >not accounted for some weapons by the time Clinton
> >ended his term in 2001.
> >Clinton's comments reinforce one of the pillars of
> >Bush's defense of the war in Iraq - that his
> >Democratic predecessor was never satisfied that
> Saddam
> >had rid himself of weapons of mass destruction.
> >
> >"When I left office, there was a substantial amount
> of
> >biological and chemical material unaccounted for,"
> >Clinton said on CNN's "Larry King Live."
> >
> >Clinton said he never found out whether a
> U.S.-British
> >bombing campaign he ordered in 1998 ended Saddam's
> >capability of producing chemical and biological
> >weapons. "We might have gotten it all, we might
> have
> >gotten half of it, we might have gotten none of
> it,"
> >he said.
> >
> >In his State of the Union speech in February
> >justifying the planned war in Iraq, Bush referred
> to
> >British intelligence reports that Saddam had tried
> to
> >purchase uranium for nuclear weapons production.
> His
> >administration says it now believes those reports
> were
> >based in part on forged documents.
> >
> >Clinton confined his remarks to biological and
> >chemical weapons, and did not say whether he would
> >consider credible any report that Saddam had wanted
> to
> >build a nuclear weapons program.
> >
> >Nonetheless, he suggested that Bush's mistake was
> par
> >for the course - and that it was time to move on
> now
> >that Bush had acknowledged the error.
> >
> >"You know, everybody makes mistakes when they are
> >president," he said. "I mean, you can't make as
> many
> >calls as you have to without messing up once in a
> >while. The thing we ought to be focused on is what
> is
> >the right thing to do now."
> >
> >Clinton said ending tensions in Iraq should be the
> >priority now - another echo of the current White
> >House's talking points. "We should be pulling for
> >America on this. We should be pulling for the
> people
> >of Iraq."
> >
> >Clinton made his remarks as a call-in guest on a
> >program observing the 80th birthday of Bob Dole,
> his
> >rival for the White House in 1996.
> >
> >
> >
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