[Vision2020] Revisionist Workplace rules: Sexual harassment=sex
Ted Moffett
ted_moffett@hotmail.com
Wed, 16 Jul 2003 19:32:01 +0000
Tim, et. al.
I forgot to mention, that claim that Clinton was lying "just about sex"
refers to the encounter with Lewinsky, not Paula Jones. The dress with the
evidence was the smoking gun to prove Clinton did have a certain sort of
encounter with Lewinsky. The alleged sexual harassment of Paula Jones did
not have this sort of conclusive evidence backing it up.
So I don't see the hypocrisy you claim is expressed by people who say
Clinton's lies were "just about sex." If this refers to the Lewinsky case,
it was just about sex. Lewinsky has never claimed she was sexually
harassed, as far as I know. She was a willing partner.
Ted
>From: "Ted Moffett" <ted_moffett@hotmail.com>
>To: timlohr@yahoo.com
>CC: vision2020@moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Revisionist Workplace rules: Sexual
>harassment=sex
>Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 19:02:48 +0000
>
>
>Tim et. al.
>
>You speak as though you know with certainty what happened between Clinton
>and Paula Jones. Why?
>Did you see a video tape, or hear an audio tape, of the incident? Do you
>know of any source that does have video or audio tapes of the incident?
>
>Did you consult a psychic?
>
>Paula Jones did have motivation to embellish her story. And Clinton
>certainly had motivation to lie if he did truly harass Paula Jones. I
>don't think either individual is a paragon of truth.
>
>Your account of the ALLEGED sexual harassment is just a theory, one
>interpretation, though often repeated in the media.
>
>As we slide down the proverbial slippery muddy slope of civil rights
>erosion, the ease with which people, based on repetitions of a story
>alleging unlawful conduct, fueled by powerful emotions of bias, come to
>believe such allegations are fact, without sufficient evidence, just makes
>the slope even steeper and muddier.
>
>Ted
>
>
>
>>From: Tim Lohrmann <timlohr@yahoo.com>
>>To: vision2020@moscow.com
>>Subject: [Vision2020] Revisionist Workplace rules: Sexual harassment=sex
>>Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:20:28 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>>Visionaries,
>> It's amazing really. Almost everyone who
>>commented on my posts are in such denial that their
>>blow dried slick willie could have been not exactly
>>respectful of women.
>> Bob Hoffman's and Joan Opyr's last posts were good
>>examples.
>> So for one last time, Folks, when Bill committed
>>perjury, he was NOT LYING ABOUT SEX or being a serial
>>adulterer he was lying in a deposition after he had
>>been named as the defendant in a SEXUAL HARASSMENT
>>SUIT. If you consider alleged sexual harassment(in
>>this case the chief exec. officer of a state sending
>>Ark State Troopers out to summon a young woman who was
>>in the employ of that state up to his room and
>>exposing himself demanding sexual gratification) as
>>comparable to just another sexual encounter then your
>>views on rights of women in the workplace may come
>>from the nineties--but the nineties of the last
>>century.
>> That's why I brought this up. To point out the
>>complete lack of principle in both parties. And how it
>>is often transferred to the knee-jerk defenders of
>>them. IF a GOP Pres. had been named in a sexual
>>harassment suit the supposedly feminist minded
>>Democrat party and their feminist allies would have
>>been enraged and sputtering into any available
>>microphone about what a pig he was.
>> BUT since he was who he was--linked to their own
>>political futures--heard next to nothing from the
>>demos and the feminists. Just as on this list, they
>>said it was JUST ABOUT SEX.
>> Principles in present day two party politics? As an
>>elderly neighbor of mine used to "they ain't got
>>na'arn!"
>> Later, TL
>>
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