[Vision2020] Revisionist Workplace rules: Sexual harassment=sex
Tim Lohrmann
timlohr@yahoo.com
Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:37:59 -0700 (PDT)
Ted,
A litigant, in a deposition, attempting to
establish that the defendant has acted in similar ways
in other settings is relevant and legitimate. It may
or may not be allowed in open court, but it a
legitimate line of inquiry that takes place in
preparation for most suits.
That's what I meant by the right of the plaintiff
alleging sexual harassment to have her claim fully
litigated.
TL
--- Ted Moffett <ted_moffett@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Tim, et. al.
>
> I forgot to mention, that claim that Clinton was
> lying "just about sex"
> refers to the encounter with Lewinsky, not Paula
> Jones. The dress with the
> evidence was the smoking gun to prove Clinton did
> have a certain sort of
> encounter with Lewinsky. The alleged sexual
> harassment of Paula Jones did
> not have this sort of conclusive evidence backing it
> up.
>
> So I don't see the hypocrisy you claim is expressed
> by people who say
> Clinton's lies were "just about sex." If this
> refers to the Lewinsky case,
> it was just about sex. Lewinsky has never claimed
> she was sexually
> harassed, as far as I know. She was a willing
> partner.
>
> Ted
>
>
> >From: "Ted Moffett" <ted_moffett@hotmail.com>
> >To: timlohr@yahoo.com
> >CC: vision2020@moscow.com
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Revisionist Workplace
> rules: Sexual
> >harassment=sex
> >Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 19:02:48 +0000
> >
> >
> >Tim et. al.
> >
> >You speak as though you know with certainty what
> happened between Clinton
> >and Paula Jones. Why?
> >Did you see a video tape, or hear an audio tape, of
> the incident? Do you
> >know of any source that does have video or audio
> tapes of the incident?
> >
> >Did you consult a psychic?
> >
> >Paula Jones did have motivation to embellish her
> story. And Clinton
> >certainly had motivation to lie if he did truly
> harass Paula Jones. I
> >don't think either individual is a paragon of
> truth.
> >
> >Your account of the ALLEGED sexual harassment is
> just a theory, one
> >interpretation, though often repeated in the media.
> >
> >As we slide down the proverbial slippery muddy
> slope of civil rights
> >erosion, the ease with which people, based on
> repetitions of a story
> >alleging unlawful conduct, fueled by powerful
> emotions of bias, come to
> >believe such allegations are fact, without
> sufficient evidence, just makes
> >the slope even steeper and muddier.
> >
> >Ted
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: Tim Lohrmann <timlohr@yahoo.com>
> >>To: vision2020@moscow.com
> >>Subject: [Vision2020] Revisionist Workplace rules:
> Sexual harassment=sex
> >>Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:20:28 -0700 (PDT)
> >>
> >>Visionaries,
> >> It's amazing really. Almost everyone who
> >>commented on my posts are in such denial that
> their
> >>blow dried slick willie could have been not
> exactly
> >>respectful of women.
> >> Bob Hoffman's and Joan Opyr's last posts were
> good
> >>examples.
> >> So for one last time, Folks, when Bill
> committed
> >>perjury, he was NOT LYING ABOUT SEX or being a
> serial
> >>adulterer he was lying in a deposition after he
> had
> >>been named as the defendant in a SEXUAL HARASSMENT
> >>SUIT. If you consider alleged sexual harassment(in
> >>this case the chief exec. officer of a state
> sending
> >>Ark State Troopers out to summon a young woman who
> was
> >>in the employ of that state up to his room and
> >>exposing himself demanding sexual gratification)
> as
> >>comparable to just another sexual encounter then
> your
> >>views on rights of women in the workplace may come
> >>from the nineties--but the nineties of the last
> >>century.
> >> That's why I brought this up. To point out the
> >>complete lack of principle in both parties. And
> how it
> >>is often transferred to the knee-jerk defenders of
> >>them. IF a GOP Pres. had been named in a sexual
> >>harassment suit the supposedly feminist minded
> >>Democrat party and their feminist allies would
> have
> >>been enraged and sputtering into any available
> >>microphone about what a pig he was.
> >> BUT since he was who he was--linked to their
> own
> >>political futures--heard next to nothing from the
> >>demos and the feminists. Just as on this list,
> they
> >>said it was JUST ABOUT SEX.
> >> Principles in present day two party politics?
> As an
> >>elderly neighbor of mine used to "they ain't got
> >>na'arn!"
> >> Later, TL
> >>
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