[Vision2020] MSD Pay and Tenure--a reply
Donovan Arnold
donovanarnold@hotmail.com
Tue, 01 Jul 2003 23:02:20 -0700
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<P>Yes Dale,</P>
<P>Even though this is not addressing the question asked, I would love to discuss the differences between the European and United States educational system. Including the funding aspects.</P></DIV>
<P>I am not denying that vouchers can't work under any circumstances. They can, if you give the Federal Government more money, then use that money to give to parents to choose what school they want to send their children to as European governments do.</P>
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<P>All European countries use a parliamentary system of government and all power rests there, in the central government. In the United States most of the power regarding education is decentralized, or rests within the states mostly, some in the Federal Government, and a little in the Courts. </P>
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<P>If you wish to give the Federal Government as big of a chunk of your check as Europeans do I am sure we can provide a more superior educational system then we have now in the States. The average European gives about 50-75% of their check to the Federal Government. The average US Citizen gives about 30% to the Federal Government and about 15-25% to the State and local governments depending on what state, city, and county they reside in. </P>
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<P>If you would like to give an additional 10% of your check to the Federal Government for the purposes of providing vouchers for parents to attend the school of their choice I would be all for it!</P>
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<P>However, I doubt you would like to pay more then you are now. Nor does this prove that you can provide better education then now for less money. Nor does it answer the question we are asking. Nor does it address the fact that Europe has almost 0% growth rate, meaning, they have less children per adult, meaning they have more workers and less children to pay for making it easier to keep up with increasing costs of educating one child.</P>
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<P>Thanks!</P>
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<P>Donovan J Arnold<BR><BR></P>
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<DIV></DIV>>From: "Dale Courtney" <DALE@COURTNEYS.US>
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<DIV></DIV>>To: <VISION2020@MOSCOW.COM>
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<DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] MSD Pay and Tenure--a reply
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<DIV></DIV>>Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 19:25:02 -0700
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<DIV></DIV>>Donovan,
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<DIV></DIV>>Every Western European Country -- even Sweden and Denmark -- have a voucher system (with the exception of Italy).
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<DIV></DIV>>Would you care to discuss the educational standards in Europe over the USA?
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<DIV></DIV>>Best,
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<DIV></DIV>>Dale
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<DIV></DIV>> Second, I am certainly sure that people are tired of my rants of asking you the same question 57 times and you refusing to answer. I am getting tired of it too. In case you haven't noticed, the majority believe in spending huge amounts of money on MSD, they not only support it, but they vote for it time and time again. If your argument was so strong, then why do people in the community keep on passing levies to spend MORE on education? So, I think when it comes down to popular support of increasing spending on education, and cutting it, as you suggest, you lose if people caring enough to vote and pass levies by a supermajority counts as a measuring stick.
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