[Vision2020] MSD Pay and Tenure--a reply

Donovan Arnold donovanarnold@hotmail.com
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<P>Dale,</P>
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<P>First Dale, so have&nbsp;I. And not only by email, but in person. Many of which have PhD's.</P>
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<P>Second, I am certainly sure that people are tired of my rants of asking you the same question 57 times and you refusing to answer. I am getting tired of it too. In case you haven't noticed, the majority believe in spending huge amounts of money on MSD, they not only support it, but they vote for it time and time again. If your argument was so strong, then why do people in the community keep on passing levies to spend MORE on education? So, I think when it comes down to popular support of increasing spending on education, and cutting it, as you suggest, you lose if people caring enough to vote and pass levies by a supermajority counts as a measuring stick.</P>
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<P>Third, I don't disagree one iota with your statistics, as does anyone else. It is your inability to come up with a plan and the meaning of your statistics that everyone disagrees with.</P>
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<P>Statistics don't provide a plan.&nbsp;They don't &nbsp;solve anything. Statistics are simply&nbsp;numerical descriptions of&nbsp;something. </P>
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<P>I can provide statistics all day long on murder. However, that does not cause or prevent murder does it? Well, either does providing statistics on MSD solve any problems they "may" or "may not" have.</P>
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<P>Once again, you are obviously not understanding that the argument is: "You believe that the MSD can provide the same services for children for less money". "I believe that they can't".</P>
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<P>You have provided statistical information that they spend $8-9K a student. You have not provided how they can spend only $8k or less a student and provide the same services.</P>
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<P>You must provide that evidence in order to win the argument you make to the educated members of the community.</P>
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<P>I have no doubt that you can stir the emotions of people that hate taxes and tired of paying them under another "Bush Economy". But emotional claims to hating taxes does not solve the problem facing the residents of Moscow, providing the same quality of education to the children of Moscow. I happen to think everything is too expensive, housing, food, medical care, a ticket to the movies, and cars. Big deal, providing "stats" on the rising costs does reduce the costs of the movie, food, housing, or medical care without cutting the quality of movie, car, medical care, or housing. It is common sense, and you need to provide evidence to your claims. "Extraordinary&nbsp;claims requires extraordinary evidence"</P>
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<P>Thanks for not being able to answer the ONE question that would prove your case.</P>
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<P>Donovan J Arnold</P>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: "Dale Courtney" <DALE@COURTNEYS.US>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: [Vision2020] MSD Pay and Tenure--a reply 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 05:34:16 -0700 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Donovan, 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Au contraire. I've been contacted off-list by many who have ignored your rants and embraced my stats. 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;As I said, I'm not going to waste my time with you laying out a detailed plan when you don't even accept that there's anything wrong with the status quo. When you are ready to admit the problem, then I'll give you the solution. 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt; Gee, Dale, you wrote over 25 postings whining about this issue and haven't convinced a soul. Yet, now writing one email with a NAME of the school and BUDGET of the School that provides the same services to students and educators as MSD is wasting breath? I am asking for one word and a number, not 25 postings. Hardly wasting breath. 
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