[Vision2020] Why doesn't the Sisterhood learn to shoot?

[Ted Moffett]

Don, et. al.

As a matter of fact, women are still "held back" by men from being as 
capable of self defense as men are, and thus are led to expect to be 
defended by men, due to a variety of expectations and behaviors dealing with 
the complex issues of gender and sexism in the USA.  The role women are 
expected to play in the ethics of certain powerful fundamentalist Christian 
sects right now in the USA discourages women from assuming aggressive self 
defense oriented behaviors.

In some other countries far more sexist than our freedom loving culture, 
women are oppressed in the extreme and lack the capability for defense 
against just about everything. Things are changing though of course here in 
the USA.  Many more women than in the past are capable of self defense.

As to the Susan B Anthony quote on bjcraw's e-mail, so what?  Many people 
feel strongly enough about a specific issue to put a quote attached to all 
their e-mails as food for thought for anyone interested.  If you are not 
interested in the message of the quote, ignore it.

What is the big problem with short inspirational messages on peoples 
e-mails, I wonder?

Other complaints have been made on vision2020 about this practice, but it 
seemed the complaints have been inspired by a dislike of the message, rather 
than any real problem created by a short thoughtful quote tacked on to the 
end of an e-mail.

Ted



>From: Don Kaag <dkaag@turbonet.com>
>To: Vision 2020 <vision2020@moscow.com>
>Subject: [Vision2020] Why doesn't the Sisterhood learn to shoot?
>Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 06:32:11 -0800
>
>Walter:
>
>You've got me.  I haven't got a clue, either.
>
>On the other hand, anyone, male or female, has the right and responsibility 
>to learn to defend themselves.  And the male gender is not holding the 
>female back in that respect.  All you have to do is to take responsibility 
>for yourself, make the commitment, and do it.
>
>There are plenty of opportunities right here in Moscow---various martial 
>arts dojos, an IPSC pistol club with NRA-trained instructors---and I don't 
>see anyone holding women back from joining any or all of them.  Not to 
>mention a bunch of women already enrolled in the UI law school.  This isn't 
>the 1890's.  Duh.
>
>Regards,
>
>Don Kaag
>
>On Saturday, February 15, 2003, at 08:20 PM, WMSteed@aol.com wrote:
>
>>In a message dated 2/14/2003 8:57:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
>>bjcraw@uidaho.edu writes:
>>
>>>Jean C
>>>"I declare to you that woman must not depend upon the protection of man,
>>>    but must be taught to protect herself, and there I take
>>>my stand."
>>>     --Susan B Anthony
>>
>>I am fascinated by the quotes attached to v2020 postings.  My question, 
>>what in the earth does this, or any other posting subscript, have with the 
>>subject at hand?
>>
>>Walter Steed
>>
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