[Vision2020] RenFair/Rendezvous questiion

Bob Hoffmann escape@alt-escape.com
Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:35:45 -0800


--=====================_21297578==.ALT
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

OK, so the City Fathers shouldn't have any say about whether events serve=20
alcohol or allow women to have bare breasts on city property.

At 03:11 PM 2/13/2003 -0800, Dale Courtney wrote:
>Bill,
>
>For the record: I don't disagree with the RenFair board deciding not to=20
>have alcohol at the Fair.
>
>Those kinds of decisions should be made by the boards that oversee such=20
>events.  My disagreement was that the decision should be rendered by the=20
>City Fathers.
>
>Best,
>Dale
>-----Original Message-----
>From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] On=
=20
>Behalf Of Bill London
>Sent: Thursday, 13 February, 2003 14:34
>To: Ron Force
>Cc: vision2020@moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] RenFair/Rendezvous questiion
>
>I would like to set the record straight in one small regard....
>The Moscow Renaissance Fair (that's the spring celebration at the park=20
>with free admission) never, not even once, requested that alcohol sales be=
=20
>allowed in East City Park.
>Rendezvous in the Park (that's the mid-summer concert series that charges=
=20
>admission) first made the request for alcohol sales in 1990 and suggested=
=20
>that the Renaissance Fair would benefit as well from that.  The RenFair=20
>board disagreed publicly (as Ron Force notes below).
>Rendezvous again brought up the suggestion for alcohol sales in the park,=
=20
>during the Rendezvous only and under strict conditions, a few years=20
>ago.  The RenFair was not a part of that request.  The request was denied.
>BL
>
>Ron Force wrote:
>>  Well, they're held on city property (public parks) so it becomes a=20
>> matter of public policy.  The Ren Fair Board rejected asking for alcohol=
=20
>> sales in 1990 on the grounds that "fair board members are attempting to=
=20
>> increase emphasis on children's and family activities at the fair and=20
>> alcohol just wouldn't have any place."  I think that was the last time=20
>> the city council thought about taking up the issue of alcohol in the=20
>> parks. When the subject came up about  Rendevous having a beer garden a=
=20
>> few yearsago, it never got to Council because the public reaction was so=
=20
>> negative.********************************************
>>Ron=20
>>Force                 <mailto:rforce@moscow.com>rforce@moscow.comMoscow=20
>>Idaho USA
>>********************************************
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com=20
>>[<mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com>mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On=
=20
>>  Behalf Of Dale Courtney
>>Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 12:33 PM
>>To: vision2020@moscow.com
>>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] RenFair/Rendezvous questiion
>>
>>The City has no business regulating who/what/where/when/why businesses=20
>>are selling beer and wine at these events. Best,Dale
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com=20
>>[<mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com>mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]=
=20
>>On Behalf Of Sunil Ramalingam
>>Sent: Thursday, 13 February, 2003 12:20
>>To: vision2020@moscow.com
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] RenFair/Rendezvous questiion
>>
>>Mike,I live near the park, and I'd like beer and wine to be available for=
=20
>>both events.
>>
>>Dale, does your opposition to city regulation mean that you would favor=20
>>the regulated sale of beer and wine at both events?  Or do you want=20
>>unregulated sales?  Or no sales?
>>
>>Sunil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>----------
>>Tired of spam? Get <http://g.msn.com/8HMHENUS/2734>advanced junk mail=20
>>protection with MSN 8.=20
>>_____________________________________________________ List services made=
=20
>>available by First Step Internet, serving the communities of the Palouse=
=20
>>since 1994. <http://www.fsr.net>http://www.fsr.net=20
>>mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com=20
>>=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=
=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=
=AF=AF=AF=AF
>
>Bob Hoffmann
>820 S. Logan St.
>Moscow, ID  83843
>
>Tel: 208 883-0642=20
--=====================_21297578==.ALT
Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<html>
<body>
OK, so the City Fathers shouldn't have any say about whether events serve
alcohol or allow women to have bare breasts on city property.<br><br>
At 03:11 PM 2/13/2003 -0800, Dale Courtney wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite><font face=3D"arial" size=3D2=
 color=3D"#0000FF">Bill,</font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2 color=3D"#0000FF">For the record: I don't
disagree with the RenFair board deciding not to have alcohol at the Fair.
</font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2 color=3D"#0000FF">Those kinds of decisions sho=
uld
be made by the boards that oversee such events.&nbsp; My disagreement was
that the decision should be rendered by the City Fathers. </font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2 color=3D"#0000FF">Best,</font><br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2 color=3D"#0000FF">Dale</font><br>

<dl>
<dd><font face=3D"tahoma" size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<br>

<dd>From:</b> vision2020-admin@moscow.com
[<a href=3D"mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com" eudora=3D"autourl">mailto:vi=
sion2020-admin@moscow.com</a>]
On Behalf Of </b>Bill London<br>

<dd>Sent:</b> Thursday, 13 February, 2003 14:34<br>

<dd>To:</b> Ron Force<br>

<dd>Cc:</b> vision2020@moscow.com<br>

<dd>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] RenFair/Rendezvous questiion<br><br>
</font>
<dd>I would like to set the record straight in one small regard....=20
<br>

<dd>The Moscow Renaissance Fair (that's the spring celebration at the
park with free admission) never, not even once, requested that alcohol
sales be allowed in East City Park. <br>

<dd>Rendezvous in the Park (that's the mid-summer concert series that
charges admission) first made the request for alcohol sales in 1990 and
suggested that the Renaissance Fair would benefit as well from
that.&nbsp; The RenFair board disagreed publicly (as Ron Force notes
below). <br>

<dd>Rendezvous again brought up the suggestion for alcohol sales in the
park, during the Rendezvous only and under strict conditions, a few years
ago.&nbsp; The RenFair was not a part of that request.&nbsp; The request
was denied. <br>

<dd>BL <br><br>

<dd>Ron Force wrote: <br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite>
<dd>&nbsp;Well, they're held on city property (public parks) so it
becomes a matter of public policy.&nbsp; The Ren Fair Board rejected
asking for alcohol sales in 1990 on the grounds
that<font color=3D"#0000FF"> </font><a name=3D"lphit10"></a>&quot;fair board
members are attempting to increase emphasis on children's and family
activities at the fair and alcohol just wouldn't have any
place.&quot;&nbsp; I think that was the last time the city council
thought about taking up the issue of alcohol in the parks. When the
subject came up about&nbsp; Rendevous having a beer garden a few
yearsago, it never got to Council because the public reaction was so
negative.<font size=3D2>********************************************</font>
<br>

<dd><font size=3D2>Ron
Force&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<a href=3D"mailto:rforce@moscow.com">rforce@moscow.com</a>Moscow Idaho
USA</font> <br>

<dd><font size=3D2>********************************************</font>
<br>

<dd><font face=3D"tahoma" size=3D2>-----Original Message-----</font> <br>

<dd><font face=3D"tahoma" size=3D2>From:</b> vision2020-admin@moscow.com [<a=
 href=3D"mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.=
com</a>]On Behalf Of </b>Dale Courtney</font> <br>

<dd><font face=3D"tahoma" size=3D2>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 13, 2003=
 12:33 PM</font> <br>

<dd><font face=3D"tahoma" size=3D2>To:</b> vision2020@moscow.com</font> <br>

<dd><font face=3D"tahoma" size=3D2>Subject:</b> RE: [Vision2020]=
 RenFair/Rendezvous questiion</font> <br>

<dd>&nbsp;<br>

<dd><font face=3D"arial" size=3D2 color=3D"#0000FF">The City has no business=
 regulating who/what/where/when/why businesses are selling beer and wine at=
 these events. Best,Dale</font> <br>

<dd><font face=3D"tahoma" size=3D2>-----Original Message-----</font> <br>

<dd><font face=3D"tahoma" size=3D2>From:</b> vision2020-admin@moscow.com [<a=
 href=3D"mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.=
com</a>] On Behalf Of </b>Sunil Ramalingam</font> <br>

<dd><font face=3D"tahoma" size=3D2>Sent:</b> Thursday, 13 February, 2003=
 12:20</font> <br>

<dd><font face=3D"tahoma" size=3D2>To:</b> vision2020@moscow.com</font> <br>

<dd><font face=3D"tahoma" size=3D2>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020]=
 RenFair/Rendezvous questiion</font> <br>

<dd>&nbsp;<br>

<dd>Mike,I live near the park, and I'd like beer and wine to be available=
 for both events. <br><br>

<dd>Dale, does your opposition to city regulation mean that you would favor=
 the regulated sale of beer and wine at both events?&nbsp; Or do you want=
 unregulated sales?&nbsp; Or no sales? <br><br>

<dd>Sunil <br>

<dd>&nbsp; <br><br>
<br>
<hr>

<dd>Tired of spam? Get <a href=3D"http://g.msn.com/8HMHENUS/2734">advanced=
 junk mail protection</a> with MSN 8.=
 _____________________________________________________ List services made=
 available by First Step Internet, serving the communities of the Palouse=
 since 1994. <a href=3D"http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</a> <a=
 href=3D"mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com"=
 eudora=3D"autourl">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a>=
 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=
=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=
=AF=AF=AF<br>
</blockquote>
<x-sigsep><p></x-sigsep>

</dl>Bob Hoffmann<br>
820 S. Logan St.<br>
Moscow, ID&nbsp; 83843<br><br>
Tel: 208 883-0642</body>
</html>

--=====================_21297578==.ALT--