[Vision2020] RenFair/Rendezvous questiion
Bob Hoffmann
escape@alt-escape.com
Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:35:45 -0800
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OK, so the City Fathers shouldn't have any say about whether events serve=20
alcohol or allow women to have bare breasts on city property.
At 03:11 PM 2/13/2003 -0800, Dale Courtney wrote:
>Bill,
>
>For the record: I don't disagree with the RenFair board deciding not to=20
>have alcohol at the Fair.
>
>Those kinds of decisions should be made by the boards that oversee such=20
>events. My disagreement was that the decision should be rendered by the=20
>City Fathers.
>
>Best,
>Dale
>-----Original Message-----
>From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] On=
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>Behalf Of Bill London
>Sent: Thursday, 13 February, 2003 14:34
>To: Ron Force
>Cc: vision2020@moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] RenFair/Rendezvous questiion
>
>I would like to set the record straight in one small regard....
>The Moscow Renaissance Fair (that's the spring celebration at the park=20
>with free admission) never, not even once, requested that alcohol sales be=
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>allowed in East City Park.
>Rendezvous in the Park (that's the mid-summer concert series that charges=
=20
>admission) first made the request for alcohol sales in 1990 and suggested=
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>that the Renaissance Fair would benefit as well from that. The RenFair=20
>board disagreed publicly (as Ron Force notes below).
>Rendezvous again brought up the suggestion for alcohol sales in the park,=
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>during the Rendezvous only and under strict conditions, a few years=20
>ago. The RenFair was not a part of that request. The request was denied.
>BL
>
>Ron Force wrote:
>> Well, they're held on city property (public parks) so it becomes a=20
>> matter of public policy. The Ren Fair Board rejected asking for alcohol=
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>> sales in 1990 on the grounds that "fair board members are attempting to=
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>> increase emphasis on children's and family activities at the fair and=20
>> alcohol just wouldn't have any place." I think that was the last time=20
>> the city council thought about taking up the issue of alcohol in the=20
>> parks. When the subject came up about Rendevous having a beer garden a=
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>> few yearsago, it never got to Council because the public reaction was so=
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>> negative.********************************************
>>Ron=20
>>Force <mailto:rforce@moscow.com>rforce@moscow.comMoscow=20
>>Idaho USA
>>********************************************
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com=20
>>[<mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com>mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On=
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>> Behalf Of Dale Courtney
>>Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 12:33 PM
>>To: vision2020@moscow.com
>>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] RenFair/Rendezvous questiion
>>
>>The City has no business regulating who/what/where/when/why businesses=20
>>are selling beer and wine at these events. Best,Dale
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com=20
>>[<mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com>mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]=
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>>On Behalf Of Sunil Ramalingam
>>Sent: Thursday, 13 February, 2003 12:20
>>To: vision2020@moscow.com
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] RenFair/Rendezvous questiion
>>
>>Mike,I live near the park, and I'd like beer and wine to be available for=
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>>both events.
>>
>>Dale, does your opposition to city regulation mean that you would favor=20
>>the regulated sale of beer and wine at both events? Or do you want=20
>>unregulated sales? Or no sales?
>>
>>Sunil
>>
>>
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>Bob Hoffmann
>820 S. Logan St.
>Moscow, ID 83843
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>Tel: 208 883-0642=20
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OK, so the City Fathers shouldn't have any say about whether events serve
alcohol or allow women to have bare breasts on city property.<br><br>
At 03:11 PM 2/13/2003 -0800, Dale Courtney wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite><font face=3D"arial" size=3D2=
color=3D"#0000FF">Bill,</font><br>
<br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2 color=3D"#0000FF">For the record: I don't
disagree with the RenFair board deciding not to have alcohol at the Fair.
</font><br>
<br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2 color=3D"#0000FF">Those kinds of decisions sho=
uld
be made by the boards that oversee such events. My disagreement was
that the decision should be rendered by the City Fathers. </font><br>
<br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2 color=3D"#0000FF">Best,</font><br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D2 color=3D"#0000FF">Dale</font><br>
<dl>
<dd><font face=3D"tahoma" size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<br>
<dd>From:</b> vision2020-admin@moscow.com
[<a href=3D"mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com" eudora=3D"autourl">mailto:vi=
sion2020-admin@moscow.com</a>]
On Behalf Of </b>Bill London<br>
<dd>Sent:</b> Thursday, 13 February, 2003 14:34<br>
<dd>To:</b> Ron Force<br>
<dd>Cc:</b> vision2020@moscow.com<br>
<dd>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] RenFair/Rendezvous questiion<br><br>
</font>
<dd>I would like to set the record straight in one small regard....=20
<br>
<dd>The Moscow Renaissance Fair (that's the spring celebration at the
park with free admission) never, not even once, requested that alcohol
sales be allowed in East City Park. <br>
<dd>Rendezvous in the Park (that's the mid-summer concert series that
charges admission) first made the request for alcohol sales in 1990 and
suggested that the Renaissance Fair would benefit as well from
that. The RenFair board disagreed publicly (as Ron Force notes
below). <br>
<dd>Rendezvous again brought up the suggestion for alcohol sales in the
park, during the Rendezvous only and under strict conditions, a few years
ago. The RenFair was not a part of that request. The request
was denied. <br>
<dd>BL <br><br>
<dd>Ron Force wrote: <br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite>
<dd> Well, they're held on city property (public parks) so it
becomes a matter of public policy. The Ren Fair Board rejected
asking for alcohol sales in 1990 on the grounds
that<font color=3D"#0000FF"> </font><a name=3D"lphit10"></a>"fair board
members are attempting to increase emphasis on children's and family
activities at the fair and alcohol just wouldn't have any
place." I think that was the last time the city council
thought about taking up the issue of alcohol in the parks. When the
subject came up about Rendevous having a beer garden a few
yearsago, it never got to Council because the public reaction was so
negative.<font size=3D2>********************************************</font>
<br>
<dd><font size=3D2>Ron
Force  =
;
<a href=3D"mailto:rforce@moscow.com">rforce@moscow.com</a>Moscow Idaho
USA</font> <br>
<dd><font size=3D2>********************************************</font>
<br>
<dd><font face=3D"tahoma" size=3D2>-----Original Message-----</font> <br>
<dd><font face=3D"tahoma" size=3D2>From:</b> vision2020-admin@moscow.com [<a=
href=3D"mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.=
com</a>]On Behalf Of </b>Dale Courtney</font> <br>
<dd><font face=3D"tahoma" size=3D2>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 13, 2003=
12:33 PM</font> <br>
<dd><font face=3D"tahoma" size=3D2>To:</b> vision2020@moscow.com</font> <br>
<dd><font face=3D"tahoma" size=3D2>Subject:</b> RE: [Vision2020]=
RenFair/Rendezvous questiion</font> <br>
<dd> <br>
<dd><font face=3D"arial" size=3D2 color=3D"#0000FF">The City has no business=
regulating who/what/where/when/why businesses are selling beer and wine at=
these events. Best,Dale</font> <br>
<dd><font face=3D"tahoma" size=3D2>-----Original Message-----</font> <br>
<dd><font face=3D"tahoma" size=3D2>From:</b> vision2020-admin@moscow.com [<a=
href=3D"mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.=
com</a>] On Behalf Of </b>Sunil Ramalingam</font> <br>
<dd><font face=3D"tahoma" size=3D2>Sent:</b> Thursday, 13 February, 2003=
12:20</font> <br>
<dd><font face=3D"tahoma" size=3D2>To:</b> vision2020@moscow.com</font> <br>
<dd><font face=3D"tahoma" size=3D2>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020]=
RenFair/Rendezvous questiion</font> <br>
<dd> <br>
<dd>Mike,I live near the park, and I'd like beer and wine to be available=
for both events. <br><br>
<dd>Dale, does your opposition to city regulation mean that you would favor=
the regulated sale of beer and wine at both events? Or do you want=
unregulated sales? Or no sales? <br><br>
<dd>Sunil <br>
<dd> <br><br>
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</dl>Bob Hoffmann<br>
820 S. Logan St.<br>
Moscow, ID 83843<br><br>
Tel: 208 883-0642</body>
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