[Vision2020] taxation
Dale Courtney
dmcourtn@moscow.com
Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:55:32 -0800
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Sunil raises a great point!
>From a Libertarian perspective, the only difference between the Democrats
and the Republicans are how fast they want to drive us over the cliff -- and
how soon we reach that point.
Both are "way left" of being fiscal conservatives.
Bush 43, while saying he is a fiscal conservative is anything but.
Best,
Dale
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From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] On
Behalf Of Sunil Ramalingam
Sent: Monday, 22 December, 2003 14:30
To: dmcourtn@moscow.com; vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] taxation
Dale,
Are the people spending $4 billion a month on the war in Iraq leftists or
liberals? Is it possible that there are people wearing other labels that
are busy increasing our national deficit?
Sunil
>From: "Dale Courtney"
>To:
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] taxation
>Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:05:53 -0800
>
>Phil,
>
>As for TANSTAAFL -- there's too much to say. First, the leftists want to
>continue to increase the taxation burden that our children will bear. They
>simultaneously ignore that there is a decreasing population base to support
>those taxes.
>
>Here is the tax burden on our children just for Social Security:
>
>SSA Workers per Beneficiary
>
>As you can see, we currently have ~3.3 workers supporting every SSA
>beneficiary.
>
>Because of the decreasing birth rate in the USA, the increasing life
>expectancy, and the large number of Baby Boomers who are retiring, we will
>be to the point where over 50% of our kids' pay will go to support just SSA
>benefits by ~2045.
>
>No, there ain't no such thing as a free lunch -- just shifting the cost
onto
>someone else.
>
>The liberals have only a couple choices -- start having more children (will
>never happen), cut benefits (doubtful), live with an 85% tax burden, or
>privatize Social Security.
>
>I'd like to see some out-of-the-box thinking from the Left on this one.
>
>Best,
>Dale
>
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color=3D#800000 size=3D2>Sunil raises a great point!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=3D#800000 size=3D2>Both are "way left" of being fiscal =
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><BR>Bush 43, while <U>saying</U> he is a =
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<P>Dale,</P>
<P>Are the people spending $4 billion a month on the war in Iraq =
leftists or=20
liberals? Is it possible that there are people wearing other =
labels that=20
are busy increasing our national deficit?</P>
<P>Sunil<BR><BR></P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>From: "Dale Courtney" <DMCOURTN@MOSCOW.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>To: <VISION2020@MOSCOW.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] taxation=20
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:05:53 -0800=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>Phil,=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>As for TANSTAAFL -- there's too much to say. First, the =
leftists want to=20
<DIV></DIV>>continue to increase the taxation burden that our =
children will=20
bear. They=20
<DIV></DIV>>simultaneously ignore that there is a decreasing =
population=20
base to support=20
<DIV></DIV>>those taxes.=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>Here is the tax burden on our children just for Social=20
Security:=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>SSA Workers per Beneficiary=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>As you can see, we currently have ~3.3 workers =
supporting every=20
SSA=20
<DIV></DIV>>beneficiary.=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>Because of the decreasing birth rate in the USA, the =
increasing=20
life=20
<DIV></DIV>>expectancy, and the large number of Baby Boomers who =
are=20
retiring, we will=20
<DIV></DIV>>be to the point where over 50% of our kids' pay will go =
to=20
support just SSA=20
<DIV></DIV>>benefits by ~2045.=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>No, there ain't no such thing as a free lunch -- just =
shifting=20
the cost onto=20
<DIV></DIV>>someone else.=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>The liberals have only a couple choices -- start having =
more=20
children (will=20
<DIV></DIV>>never happen), cut benefits (doubtful), live with an =
85% tax=20
burden, or=20
<DIV></DIV>>privatize Social Security.=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>I'd like to see some out-of-the-box thinking from the =
Left on=20
this one.=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>Best,=20
<DIV></DIV>>Dale=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
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