[Vision2020] taxation

Sunil Ramalingam sunilramalingam@hotmail.com
Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:30:11 -0800


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<P>Dale,</P>
<P>Are the people spending $4 billion a month on the war in Iraq leftists or liberals?&nbsp; Is it possible that there are people wearing other labels that are busy increasing our national deficit?</P>
<P>Sunil<BR><BR></P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: "Dale Courtney" <DMCOURTN@MOSCOW.COM>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: <VISION2020@MOSCOW.COM>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: RE: [Vision2020] taxation 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:05:53 -0800 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Phil, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;As for TANSTAAFL -- there's too much to say. First, the leftists want to 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;continue to increase the taxation burden that our children will bear. They 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;simultaneously ignore that there is a decreasing population base to support 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;those taxes. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Here is the tax burden on our children just for Social Security: 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;SSA Workers per Beneficiary 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;As you can see, we currently have ~3.3 workers supporting every SSA 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;beneficiary. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Because of the decreasing birth rate in the USA, the increasing life 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;expectancy, and the large number of Baby Boomers who are retiring, we will 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;be to the point where over 50% of our kids' pay will go to support just SSA 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;benefits by ~2045. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;No, there ain't no such thing as a free lunch -- just shifting the cost onto 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;someone else. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;The liberals have only a couple choices -- start having more children (will 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;never happen), cut benefits (doubtful), live with an 85% tax burden, or 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;privatize Social Security. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I'd like to see some out-of-the-box thinking from the Left on this one. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Best, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Dale 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; _____ 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] On 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Behalf Of Cjsnightclub@aol.com 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Sent: Monday, 22 December, 2003 13:03 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: dmcourtn@moscow.com; vision2020@moscow.com 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: [Vision2020] taxation 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Dale, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;This information that you got is that taking into account "property 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;taxes"???? Or is it just personal income tax, sales tax, vehicle tax, gas 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;tax, utility tax, etc. If so - do they have it for Washington, Nevada, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Montana and Utah. This would be of interest to me. So you can see that we 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;are being over taxed per citizen by over 16%. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Dale - the problem with most of these people that believe they can tax 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;themselves into prosperity is they truly believe it works. All of them that 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;think like this are on the "free lunch" program. Guaranteed jobs, guaranteed 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;retirement, guaranteed medical. all at the expense of society. Takes an IQ 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;of 2 to see this. Not a PHD. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Phil 
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