[Vision2020] taxation
Dale Courtney
dmcourtn@moscow.com
Mon, 22 Dec 2003 05:44:35 -0800
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Phil,
FWIW, the Census Bureau lists the following "Per Capita Total Taxes" for
Idaho and Oregon:
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Idaho: $1,693
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Oregon: $1,459
That would imply that we pay $230 more per person in Idaho than they do in
Oregon.
Answering your other question: the tax burden will end when Americans
realize that they cannot tax themselves into prosperity. And when they learn
that the civil government isn't their nanny.
Best,
Dale
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From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] On
Behalf Of Cjsnightclub@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, 21 December, 2003 13:27
To: vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: [Vision2020] taxation
Visioneers:
I would like to respond to some of your emails.
Ron - thanx for all the info but I am talking about "property" tax. Not
individual income tax. Compare "property taxes." You will be astonished.
Dick - Here! Here! Yeah for the common sense side on your first email. I
retract it now. After reading your second email I now see the common sense
portion got lost. Don't forget to include everybody in your tax scenario.
You too! How about a "toll bridge?"
Debbie - To my knowledge there is not a single 21 year old that lives in the
halls. Therefore, -0- CJ's customers. Also - the highway that they are
crossing is a "state" highway. Has nothing to do with the city street.
Nothing! Isn't the person who ran over the other person responsible?
Provided they were crossing legally?
Dale - Seems to me if you wanted to compare apples to apples let's take
Oregon for example. Take their median income, median home value and look at
their tax burden. Remember they have no sales tax. Look at the mark up of
the utilities that the cities add and you will see that we are way off the
scale. Oregon property tax is approximately 1%. Income tax is comparable. We
have to pay a tax to the state to eat. At least in Calif. and Washington the
sales tax is not applicable to food. Just one of the necessities of life.
Something we should not be taxed on. Just like water. People that collect
food stamps are they penalized and have to pay sales tax too? Sounds like
double taxation. They taxed us first to give them the benefit then tax it
again when they eat. When is this burden gonna end.
Tom - The students are here for a total of 6 1/2 months. They are not here
for all the three day weekends, every holiday, etc. Look around right now.
They are gone till the middle of January. How can you count this time? They
are not here. I guess because the tourists spend money down in McCall they
should double their population figure also? Those people down there spend a
whole lot more money than the students here do. Everybody knows the students
have hardly any money for disposable purposes. Most of it goes on food and
books. University gain and the state gain since food is taxed. They get .6
cents on every dollar they spend.
Phil
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> vision2020-admin@moscow.com=20
[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] <B>On Behalf Of=20
</B>Cjsnightclub@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, 21 December, 2003=20
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taxation<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" PTSIZE=3D"10">Visioneers:<BR><BR>I would like to =
respond to=20
some of your emails.<BR><BR>Ron - thanx for all the info but I am =
talking=20
about "property" tax. Not individual income tax. Compare "property =
taxes." You=20
will be astonished.<BR><BR>Dick - Here! Here! Yeah for the common =
sense side=20
on your first email. I retract it now. After reading your second email =
I now=20
see the common sense portion got lost. Don't forget to include =
everybody in=20
your tax scenario. You too! How about a "toll bridge?"<BR><BR>Debbie - =
To my=20
knowledge there is not a single 21 year old that lives in the halls.=20
Therefore, -0- CJ's customers. Also - the highway that they are =
crossing is a=20
"state" highway. Has nothing to do with the city street. Nothing! =
Isn't the=20
person who ran over the other person responsible? Provided they were =
crossing=20
legally?<BR><BR>Dale - Seems to me if you wanted to compare apples to =
apples=20
let's take Oregon for example. Take their median income, median home =
value and=20
look at their tax burden. Remember they have no sales tax. Look at the =
mark up=20
of the utilities that the cities add and you will see that we are way =
off the=20
scale. Oregon property tax is approximately 1%. Income tax is =
comparable. We=20
have to pay a tax to the state to eat. At least in Calif. and =
Washington the=20
sales tax is not applicable to food. Just one of the necessities of =
life.=20
Something we should not be taxed on. Just like water. People that =
collect food=20
stamps are they penalized and have to pay sales tax too? Sounds like =
double=20
taxation. They taxed us first to give them the benefit then tax it =
again when=20
they eat. When is this burden gonna end.<BR><BR>Tom - The students are =
here=20
for a total of 6 1/2 months. They are not here for all the three day =
weekends,=20
every holiday, etc. Look around right now. They are gone till the =
middle of=20
January. How can you count this time? They are not here. I guess =
because the=20
tourists spend money down in McCall they should double their =
population figure=20
also? Those people down there spend a whole lot more money than the =
students=20
here do. Everybody knows the students have hardly any money for =
disposable=20
purposes. Most of it goes on food and books. University gain and the =
state=20
gain since food is taxed. They get .6 cents on every dollar they=20
spend.<BR><BR>Phil</FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
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