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mysticchic
mystic_chic1021@yahoo.com
Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:30:38 -0800 (PST)
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Dear Jackie:
I notice that every time somone posts something that you choose to believe is not true, you respond by saying that this person is wrong or that person must lie...example happiness_99163 mentioning the discrimination at Pullman High School. Then your next step is to sugggest counseling for that person. It is easy for everyone to expect Ruth to not live in the past regarding the horrible abuse that she suffered, but until a person experiences that type of abuse, we have no idea how deep the suffering has gone. I truly wish during this season of peace that maybe we all could try to live in another persons shoes instead of condeming them.
Best Wishes
Patty N.
Jackie Woolf <jfkwoolf2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ruth;
Again you have chosen to drag your children into a situation
this is not the proper place for them.
I totally do not agree with children being allowed to address
adults about adult discussions when they are not mature or
knowledgeable enough to do so.
The content of the ("your son's") letter is also suspect as is the timing.
But even given that, he only cites one incident, in that letter, of a spanking.
Again, IF you have proof, IF you have legitimate complaints, IF
you really believe your child(ren) has/have been abused, why
are you not presenting that in the proper venue?
And just what type of mental abuse is it when a child is being
made to write or talk about things that they are not necessarily
privie to? or should be? Especially by the person that kept
that child in the situation for over 4 years and is just NOW
saying something about it, one year later?
To quote, directly, from Cor 13:1-7:
1. Though I speak with the tongues of men and angels, but have
not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal.
2. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries
and all knowlege and though I have all faith, so that I could remove
mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
3. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor and though
I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.
4. Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not
parade itself, is not puffed up.
5. Does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked,
thinks no evil;
6. Does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth;
7. Bears all things, believe all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
This particular chapter deals with what love and a person practicing love
is to be like towards the people they deal with.
You are constantly bringing in sites that deal with known major abuses situations.
I suggest you try getting your head out of the "poor me - I am such a victim"
phase of your life and start the healing process.
No one is minimalizing the trauma you have been through with your ex;
except you as you refuse to move you and your kids past it. Not every
incident or occasion is a reason to scream "ABUSE!"
Please seek out whatever type of counseling or pastoring that you and your kids
need and start that process today. Everyone will be the better for it, especially
your kids.
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<DIV>Dear Jackie:</DIV>
<DIV>I notice that every time somone posts something that you choose to believe is not true, you respond by saying that this person is wrong or that person must lie...example happiness_99163 mentioning the discrimination at Pullman High School. Then your next step is to sugggest counseling for that person. It is easy for everyone to expect Ruth to not live in the past regarding the horrible abuse that she suffered, but until a person experiences that type of abuse, we have no idea how deep the suffering has gone. I truly wish during this season of peace that maybe we all could try to live in another persons shoes instead of condeming them.</DIV>
<DIV>Best Wishes</DIV>
<DIV>Patty N. <BR><BR><B><I>Jackie Woolf <jfkwoolf2000@yahoo.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">
<DIV>Ruth;</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Again you have chosen to drag your children into a situation</DIV>
<DIV>this is not the proper place for them.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I totally do not agree with children being allowed to address</DIV>
<DIV>adults about adult discussions when they are not mature or</DIV>
<DIV>knowledgeable enough to do so.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The content of the ("your son's") letter is also suspect as is the timing.</DIV>
<DIV>But even given that, he only cites one incident, in that letter, of a spanking.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Again, IF you have proof, IF you have legitimate complaints, IF</DIV>
<DIV>you really believe your child(ren) has/have been abused, why</DIV>
<DIV>are you not presenting that in the proper venue? </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>And just what type of mental abuse is it when a child is being </DIV>
<DIV>made to write or talk about things that they are not necessarily </DIV>
<DIV>privie to? or should be? Especially by the person that kept </DIV>
<DIV>that child in the situation for over 4 years and is just NOW </DIV>
<DIV>saying something about it, one year later?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>To quote, directly, from Cor 13:1-7:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>1. Though I speak with the tongues of men and angels, but have</DIV>
<DIV>not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>2. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries</DIV>
<DIV>and all knowlege and though I have all faith, so that I could remove</DIV>
<DIV>mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>3. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor and though</DIV>
<DIV>I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>4. Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not</DIV>
<DIV>parade itself, is not puffed up.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>5. Does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked,</DIV>
<DIV>thinks no evil;</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>6. Does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth;</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>7. Bears all things, believe all things, hopes all things, endures all things.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>This particular chapter deals with what love and a person practicing love</DIV>
<DIV>is to be like towards the people they deal with. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You are constantly bringing in sites that deal with known major abuses situations. </DIV>
<DIV>I suggest you try getting your head out of the "poor me - I am such a victim" </DIV>
<DIV>phase of your life and start the healing process.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>No one is minimalizing the trauma you have been through with your ex; </DIV>
<DIV>except you as you refuse to move you and your kids past it. Not every</DIV>
<DIV>incident or occasion is a reason to scream "ABUSE!"</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Please seek out whatever type of counseling or pastoring that you and your kids </DIV>
<DIV>need and start that process today. Everyone will be the better for it, especially</DIV>
<DIV>your kids.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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