[Vision2020] Liberal farmers market?

Dan Carscallen predator75@moscow.com
Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:47:00 -0800


Agreed Carl.  I've never thought myself liberal, but I do go to the
farmers market for some good fresh produce, some darn good beef, check
out some crafts . . .

And liberal watching ;^)

DC

-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Carl Westberg
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 2:36 PM
To: mghuskey@msn.com; vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] responding to Neo-Confederates


I wish to second Melynda's comments about the Farmer's Market.  I'm a 
liberal, which evidently puts me in Mr. Johnson's " left-wing clique", 
though I was unaware of it until now.  I never have thought of the
Farmer's 
Market as "ours".  I've thought of it as one of the wonderful things
about 
living in Moscow, and always assumed that the people gathered there on 
Saturdays were of all philosophical, political, and religious stripes, 
enjoying the fresh produce, sunshine, and music together.  It is indeed 
"ours", ownership meaning all of Moscow.

 

 

 

      Carl Westberg Jr.


>From: "Melynda Huskey" <mghuskey@msn.com>
>To: vision2020@moscow.com
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] responding to Neo-Confederates
>Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:12:47 -0800
>
>
>I've read Rodney's message twice now, and bits of it are still escaping

>me.
>  I'm perfectly willing to concede that my reading, not his writing, is
at 
>fault there.
>
>What I did understand, though, still puzzles me.  How many
>lefter-than-Rodney persons are required to make a "left-wing clique"?
Is 
>everyone who goes to the Farmers Market in the clique?  If I don't go
for 
>three or four Saturdays in a row, do I revert to membership in a
right-wing 
>clique, or am I just a social outcast?  How do I know if I'm really and

>truly in, or if I'm just on the fringes, tolerated because my folks
have a 
>big rec room and don't watch the beer too closely?  Do I have to have
my 
>own Maypole?
>
>Now about this NIMBY/NIOT business. . . I recall the minister of Christ
>Church saying that in a Christian town, all the gays would be run out
on a 
>rail (in a Christlike spirit, of course). His friend George Grant is
made 
>of sterner stuff:  he's written that the only right a gay person has is
the 
>right to a fair and speedy trial.  Wilson has also said that he expects
to 
>convert everybody in our town to his way of thinking.  I'd call that
the 
>Not In My Zion agenda, and I'm not going to praise it, or sit still for
it. 
>  Doug would just as soon not have glbt people, feminists, Jews,
Catholics, 
>or public schools in our town.  I'd prefer that we have all of those 
>things, as well as cowgirls, Republicans, punk rockers, conservative 
>Presbyterians, hydrologists, and gadflies like you and me--even if that

>diversity comes with some conflict.
>
>There's room for both of us in Moscow, Rodney.  Room for lots of
>worldviews, theologies, and lives, room for dissent and disagreement
and 
>conflict. But when one of those groups declares that theirs is TRULY
the 
>Only Way, and that the rest of us are discriminating against them by
not 
>letting them govern all of us, we've got to find a way to talk about
it.  
>When one of those groups decides that members of another group aren't
fit 
>to live--either here or at all--, we have to talk about it.  And that's
the 
>conversation we've been having . . . not necessarily in a very
productive 
>or healthy way, mind you.  Is it possible to oppose ideas without
opposing 
>people who hold those ideas?  It's tricky, but I think it can be done.
We 
>might even be able to do it without calling each other names.
>
>Melynda Huskey
>
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