[Vision2020] on behalf of Jackie Woolf

Lucy Zoe lucyzoe@moscow.com
Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:14:13 -0800


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Mrs. Rosemary Huskey on behalf of DonaldH675,
Half you ever told a half story or spewed your version of the truth on
this forum?
Just remembering that book on friendship and hospitality by Steve
Wilkins.
Would you say you told a half story, a full lie, or your own version of
spewing?
 
I think it's fair to say every post to this forum is someone's version
of the truth,
and I include my own posts. I'm just wondering if you could tell me why
*your* version of the truth should be more credible than that of others?
For
instance, why are you more credible than Jackie Woolf? Why should I
believe you, 
over anyone else on this forum? It would seem you've taken quite a
*vocal* approach
to getting your "truths" out to this forum and to the community, not
unlike a leader.
You've not hesitated in the least holding other "leaders" in this
community
accountable for their words. Should I hold you accountable for your
words?
Perhaps you could tell me why I should believe you are a credible source
for 
information, and not just another person spreading *hate speech*  and
half
truths on the Palouse? Why is your *truth* the one I should believe? 
 
(Note: I would have sent this to you privately, but I know you're
concerned
about the tone of my hysteria.)
 
lucyzoe
 

-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]
On Behalf Of DonaldH675@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:57 PM
To: vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: [Vision2020] on behalf of Jackie Woolf


Dear Visionaries,
I rarely reply to any post either written by, or "on behalf of" Jackie
Woolf.  In this instance, however, and in the interest of accurate
information, I'd like to be perfectly clear.  A copy of an email (with
the "correct" return address from David Irving's website) was forwarded
to us by a friend last night.  In the note, and (perhaps the person who
forwarded will be willing to mail a copy of the text to V20/20), David
Irving confirmed that he was coming to Moscow today from Portland.  He
named the Mark IV as the place he would be for drinks before dinner,
dinner, and a lecture.  He also said that he would have his books for
sale and would be happy to autograph them for those attending.  
I called the Mark IV this am and spoke to a young man named Nathan.
Nathan confirmed that there was a dinner reservation for 30 people, made
by a person named Alfred Holder, or Holden.  He said there would be a
speaker but he did not know the topic or name of the speaker.  I told
him that I had read an email from David Irving announcing his arrival
and his schedule at the Mark IV.  I explained that David Irving was a
Neo-Nazi and a holocaust denier.  I said it was a pity that the Mark IV,
which has provided hospitality to this town for many, many years would
have a man like David Irving speaking in their establishment.  I also
said that I hoped many community folks would be involved in a peaceful
protest.  I suggested that he discuss with the management the issues
involved.  Apparently a discussion did follow at the Mark IV and they
made their decision not to allow Irving to speak.  And by the way,
thanks to anyone who contacted Mark IV with similar concerns.
Subsequently, I received an email from Saundra saying that David Irving
would not be welcome or speaking at the Mark IV.  As usual, Jackie (or,
"on her behalf," who ever that might be) has gotten hold of only half
the story, added her own CAPS and spewed her version of the truth.  
Does David Irving tell lies?  I think we all know that he does.  Was
this a ruse by person or persons unknown?  Perhaps, but it is a fairly
elaborate one if that is the case.  
I urge all community members who care about this issue to stop in for
(at least) a cup of coffee at the Mark IV over the holiday period ahead.
They deserve our thanks and our support for their courageous decision to
do their best (and put their money where their mouth is) to stop hate
speech on the Palouse.  Three cheers for them!!!!
Best,
Rose.
P.S.  And if it turns out that the Mark IV is open to night for grateful
community members to show our appreciation would someone please notify
the V20/20 readers.
Thanks again Mark IV management and staff.
 


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<DIV><SPAN class=3D933035621-16122003>Mrs. Rosemary Huskey on behalf of=20
DonaldH675,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D933035621-16122003>Half you ever told a half story or =
spewed=20
your version of the truth on this forum?</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D933035621-16122003>Just remembering that book on =
friendship and=20
hospitality by Steve Wilkins.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D933035621-16122003>Would you say you told a half =
story, a full=20
lie, or your own version of spewing?</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D933035621-16122003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D933035621-16122003>I think it's fair to say every =
post to this=20
forum is someone's version of the truth,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D933035621-16122003>and I include my own posts. I'm =
just=20
wondering if you could tell&nbsp;me why</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D933035621-16122003>*your* version of the truth should =
be more=20
credible than that of others? For</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D933035621-16122003>instance, w</SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D933035621-16122003>hy are you more credible than </SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D933035621-16122003>Jackie Woolf? Why should&nbsp;I believe you,=20
</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D933035621-16122003>over anyone else on this forum? It =
would=20
seem </SPAN><SPAN class=3D933035621-16122003>you've taken quite a =
*vocal*=20
approach</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D933035621-16122003>to getting your "truths" out to =
this forum=20
and to the community, not unlike a leader.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D933035621-16122003>You've not hesitated in the least =
holding=20
other "leaders" in this community</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D933035621-16122003>accountable for their </SPAN><SPAN =

class=3D933035621-16122003>words. Should I hold you accountable for your =

words?</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D933035621-16122003>Perhaps you could </SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D933035621-16122003>tell&nbsp;me why&nbsp;I should </SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D933035621-16122003>believe you are a credible source for =
</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D933035621-16122003>information, and not just another =
person=20
spreading *hate speech*&nbsp; and half</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D933035621-16122003>truths on the </SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D933035621-16122003>Palouse? </SPAN><SPAN =
class=3D933035621-16122003>Why is=20
your </SPAN><SPAN class=3D933035621-16122003>*truth* the one I should =
</SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D933035621-16122003>believe? </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D933035621-16122003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D933035621-16122003>(Note: I would have sent this to =
you=20
privately, but I know you're concerned</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D933035621-16122003>about the tone of my =
hysteria.)</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D933035621-16122003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D933035621-16122003>lucyzoe</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D933035621-16122003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
  face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] <B>On =
Behalf=20
  Of </B>DonaldH675@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 16, 2003 =
12:57=20
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> vision2020@moscow.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020] =
on=20
  behalf of Jackie Woolf<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>Dear Visionaries,</DIV>
  <DIV>I rarely reply to any post either written by, or "on behalf of" =
Jackie=20
  Woolf.&nbsp; In this instance, however, and in the interest of =
accurate=20
  information, I'd like to be perfectly clear.&nbsp; A copy of an email =
(with=20
  the "correct" return address from David Irving's website) was =
forwarded to us=20
  by a friend last night.&nbsp; In the note, and (perhaps the person who =

  forwarded will be willing to mail a copy of the text to V20/20), David =
Irving=20
  confirmed that he was coming to Moscow today from Portland.&nbsp; He =
named the=20
  Mark IV as the place he would be for drinks before dinner, dinner, and =
a=20
  lecture.&nbsp; He also said that he would have his books for sale and =
would be=20
  happy to autograph them for those attending.&nbsp; </DIV>
  <DIV>I called the Mark IV this am and spoke to a young man named =
Nathan.&nbsp;=20
  Nathan confirmed that there was a dinner reservation for 30 people, =
made by a=20
  person named Alfred Holder, or Holden.&nbsp; He said there would be a =
speaker=20
  but he did not know the topic or name of the speaker.&nbsp; I told him =
that I=20
  had read an email from David Irving announcing his arrival and his =
schedule at=20
  the Mark IV.&nbsp; I explained that David Irving was a Neo-Nazi and a=20
  holocaust denier.&nbsp; I said it was a pity that the Mark IV, which =
has=20
  provided hospitality to this town for many, many years would have a =
man like=20
  David Irving speaking in their establishment.&nbsp; I also said that I =
hoped=20
  many community folks would be involved in a peaceful protest.&nbsp; I=20
  suggested that he discuss with the management the issues =
involved.&nbsp;=20
  Apparently a discussion did follow at the Mark IV&nbsp;and they made =
their=20
  decision not to allow Irving to speak.&nbsp; And by the way, thanks to =
anyone=20
  who contacted Mark IV with similar concerns.</DIV>
  <DIV>Subsequently, I received an email from Saundra saying that David =
Irving=20
  would not be welcome or speaking at the Mark IV.&nbsp; As usual, =
Jackie (or,=20
  "on her behalf," who ever that might be) has gotten hold of only half =
the=20
  story, added her own CAPS and spewed her version of the truth.&nbsp; =
</DIV>
  <DIV>Does David Irving tell lies?&nbsp; I think we all know that he=20
  does.&nbsp; Was this a ruse by person or persons unknown?&nbsp; =
Perhaps, but=20
  it is a fairly elaborate one if that is the case.&nbsp; </DIV>
  <DIV>I urge all community members who care about this issue to stop in =
for (at=20
  least) a cup of coffee at the Mark IV over the holiday period =
ahead.&nbsp;=20
  They deserve our thanks and our support for their courageous decision =
to do=20
  their best (and put their money where their mouth is) to stop hate =
speech on=20
  the Palouse.&nbsp; Three cheers for them!!!!</DIV>
  <DIV>Best,</DIV>
  <DIV>Rose.</DIV>
  <DIV>P.S.&nbsp; And if it turns out that the Mark IV is open to night =
for=20
  grateful community members to show our appreciation would someone =
please=20
  notify the V20/20 readers.</DIV>
  <DIV>Thanks again Mark IV management and staff.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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