[Vision2020] emancipation ed

Joshua Nieuwsma joshuahendrik@yahoo.com
Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:41:07 -0800 (PST)


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Dear Visionaries:

who is this guy Edward Sebesta, aka Emancipation Ed? Why is he filling the listserve with emails of his "research" (where he gets his time, I don't know. I think perhaps he needs a real job... :) and his thoughts on Moscow issues and debates? I haven't been paying much attention until today of the listserve stuff, but this guy is all over the place. Besides, whether Neo-Confederacy is present anywhere in Moscow or not, this guy wants to define it as:

fear mongering about immigration... hostility to gay rights... U.S. Senator Trent Lott... Strom Thurmond... opposition to civil rights for minorities and women... censorship... a "Christian" nation... the American Renaissance organization led by Southern League member Jared Taylor... hostility to taxes and big government... (off his self-filled website "temple of democracy" ttp://www.templeofdemocracy.com/WhyfightNeoConfederacy.htm)
 
A recent poll found that 60% of Americans did not like the idea of legalizing gay "marriage." So is 60% of America Neoconfederate? Many people in government are afraid of the possible problems that might arise if immigration is not stemmed in some way (I personally am all for immigration, its good for the economy), are they all Neoconfederates? I think that heavily erotic material should be kept off the national channels accessible to every individual. Am I therefore an Neoconfederate for supporting some form of censorship? Also, nearly every Founding Father of this great nation of ours  believed in God, the Christian God. They also predominantly wanted America to be a Free and Christian nation. So they were all Neoconfederates too... And Emancipation Ed would have us believe that every person that ever objected to big government or increased taxes for whatever reason is a Neoconfederate. So there goes Seattle for objecting to the Latte tax... I think Emancipation Ed ought t!
 o move
 there to continue his self-focused movement. Read his website. Read his Blogg. See how he is continually on the lookout for yet another place where he is mentioned by Somebody, even if he really wasn't but claims he was (http://www.templeofdemocracy.com/Resume.htm under "Articles unacknowledged as contributor", five citations) or if he was under the "anonymous" contribution section... (http://www.templeofdemocracy.com/Resume.htm under "Books where listed as contributor", #1). Ed Sebesta talks about how he isn't a mind reader but just watches what people do. So I did so. I read his blogg. Looked at his resume. And it seems to me he is one of those who has no focus in life unless there is controversy to be stirred up or blown on with all the excess lungpower available. And he paints with a broad brush the size of Texas. 
 
I don't want a discussion with everyone, or even individuals. You guys all play the same radio station anyhow, no matter how much diversity you claim. I am merely making a general comment on this Emancipation Ed that probably can't find Idaho on a map but found our listserve while googling for controversy to inject himself into. 
 
much later,
 
joshua nieuwsma



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<P>Dear Visionaries:</P>
<P>who is this guy Edward Sebesta, aka Emancipation Ed? Why is he filling the listserve with emails of his "research" (where he gets his time, I don't know. I think perhaps he needs a real job... :) and his thoughts on Moscow issues and debates? I haven't been paying much attention until today of the listserve stuff, but this guy is all over the place. Besides, whether Neo-Confederacy is present anywhere in Moscow or not, this guy wants to define it as:</P>
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<DIV><FONT face=arial><EM>fear mongering about immigration... hostility to gay </EM></FONT><FONT face=arial><EM>rights... U.S. Senator Trent Lott... Strom Thurmond... </EM></FONT><FONT face=arial><EM>opposition to civil rights for minorities and women... </EM></FONT><FONT face=arial><EM>censorship... a "Christian" nation...&nbsp;</EM></FONT><FONT face=arial><EM>the </EM></FONT><FONT face=arial><EM>American Renaissance organization led by Southern League member </EM></FONT><FONT face=arial><EM>Jared Taylor... hostility to taxes and big government... (off his self-filled website "temple of democracy" <A href="http://www.templeofdemocracy.com/WhyfightNeoConfederacy.htm">ttp://www.templeofdemocracy.com/WhyfightNeoConfederacy.htm</A>)</EM></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>A recent poll found that 60% of Americans did not like the idea of legalizing gay "marriage." So is 60% of America <EM>Neoconfederate?</EM> Many people in government are afraid of the possible problems that might arise if immigration is not stemmed in some way (I personally am all for immigration, its good for the economy), are they all <EM>Neoconfederates?</EM> I think that heavily erotic material should be kept off the national channels accessible to every individual. Am I therefore an <EM>Neoconfederate </EM>for supporting some form of censorship?&nbsp;Also, nearly&nbsp;every Founding Father of this great nation of ours&nbsp; believed in God, the Christian God. They also predominantly wanted America to be a Free and Christian nation. So they were all <EM>Neoconfederates too... </EM>And Emancipation Ed would have us believe that every person that ever objected to big government or increased taxes&nbsp;for whatever reason is a <EM>Neoconfederate</EM>. So there goes Sea!
 ttle for
 objecting to the Latte tax... I think Emancipation Ed ought to move there to continue his self-focused movement. Read his website. Read his Blogg. See how he is continually on the lookout for yet another place where he is mentioned by <STRONG>Somebody</STRONG>, even if he really wasn't but claims he was (<A href="http://www.templeofdemocracy.com/Resume.htm">http://www.templeofdemocracy.com/Resume.htm</A>&nbsp;under "Articles unacknowledged as contributor", five citations) or if he was under the "anonymous" contribution section... (<A href="http://www.templeofdemocracy.com/Resume.htm">http://www.templeofdemocracy.com/Resume.htm</A>&nbsp;under "Books where listed as contributor", #1). Ed Sebesta talks about how he isn't a mind reader but just watches what people do. So I did so. I read his blogg. Looked at his resume. And it seems to me he is one of those who has no focus in life unless there is controversy to be stirred up or blown on with all the excess lungpower available.!
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 paints with a broad brush the size of Texas. </DIV>
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<DIV>I don't want a discussion with everyone, or even individuals. You guys all play the same radio station anyhow, no matter how much diversity you claim. I am merely making a general comment on this Emancipation Ed that probably can't find Idaho on a map but found our listserve while googling for controversy to inject himself into. </DIV>
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<DIV>much later,</DIV>
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<DIV>joshua nieuwsma</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><p><hr SIZE=1>
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