Fwd: Re: [Vision2020] Arrogant, Insincere Con Artisty Answers

[amy smoucha]

Mr. Wilson & all,

Previously, I stated that some opinions are dangerous and should be 
challenged.  I also think that many actions are very dangerous, and should 
be denounced.

There is no acceptable reason to spit on, deface, or vandalize the property 
of Christ Church, its school or its members.  In my opinion, such actions 
are cowardly and despicable ways to disagree with Mr. Wilson.

I am very sorry that Christ Church members have been harrassed or 
threatened, and although I strongly disagree with many of Mr. Wilson's 
teachings & opinions, neither he nor any of his church members should have 
to suffer personal attacks or attacks on their property.

I hope that, even as we continue to *talk* about our differences, we find 
agreement in stating that violence & vandalism offend us all--and there is 
no place for such actions on the Palouse.

Amy Smoucha


----Original Message Follows----
From: Douglas <dougwils@moscow.com>
To: vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: Fwd: Re: [Vision2020] Arrogant, Insincere Con Artisty Answers
Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:56:28 -0800


>Visionaries,
>
>I really believe that honest questions should get honest answers. And 
>Melynda's question is a reasonable one -- although a good portion of the 
>answer should have been evident already in the public coverage this 
>controversy has received. Let me give two examples of what is being done 
>beyond simple verbal disagreement.
>
>NSA started to put up its Christmas lights this week. The first batch had 
>been up for just a couple hours before a line of them was pulled down by 
>some ad hoc volunteer members of the Tolerance Squad. It was a simple act 
>of vandalism, involving a good bit of money. Melynda, we are not the ones 
>pulling Christmas lights off your establishments. We are not spitting on 
>the doors of those with whom we disagree. That is the kind of thing being 
>done to us, and in the name of tolerance.
>
>And this connects to the second point -- this is the climate in which the 
>"Not in Our Town" campaign is being conducted. When our people are being 
>physically harassed (and they are), and at the same time there is a 
>campaign to rid the town of us, and those who are involved in the 
>leadership of this campaign appear not to have noticed the harassment, and 
>have not condemned such things, what are we to think? "Not in Our Town" 
>appears to be ambiguous as a phrase, but it leads to questions, like *what* 
>is not to be in our town? Judging from the posters I have seen, the answer 
>to that would appear to be hate. How do you get rid of what you identify 
>(wrongly) as hate, haters, hate speech, and hate groups? What do you 
>*mean,* not in our town?
>
>Do we conservative Presbyterians have to move?  Or can we stay if we never 
>express our views? Why did we have to seriously discuss whether it would be 
>foolhardy (and a waste of money) to put up Christmas lights on our 
>building?
>
>Cordially,
>
>Douglas Wilson
>
>
>At 01:09 PM 12/9/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>>In an earlier post, Doug wrote:
>>
>>"I have had a number of people (from outside our church community) stop me 
>>on the street to say something like this, "You know, I don't agree with 
>>all your stuff -- but what is being done to you all is despicable." The 
>>insular family of local radical lefties have way overplayed their hand -- 
>>this is always a danger when you demonize the opposition."
>>
>>He goes on to add that there is a plan to rid Moscow of conservative 
>>Presbyterians.
>>
>>At the risk of getting a "funny" answer, I want to ask, what *is* being 
>>done to conservative Presbyterians?  Of course, I've read the ongoing 
>>debate on Vision 2020, and seen some of the newspaper 
>>coverage--advertising and editorial content.  But is there more that I've 
>>missed?
>>
>>I think what I'm asking is, what actions other than public disagreement 
>>with Doug Wilson or Christ Church's ideas as expressed in interviews or 
>>publications have occurred?  How are Presbyterians affected?  And in what 
>>ways have they been targeted?
>>
>>Melynda Huskey
>>
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