[Vision2020] Re: Constitutional Ban on Gay Marriage

Donovan Arnold donovanarnold@hotmail.com
Tue, 05 Aug 2003 00:30:45 -0700


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<P>HAHA! I think Peter is being sarcastic, I don't know him well enough to know or not over the internet, especially after Luke's crazy insane remarks. I really don't think anyone can be so far to the right and still exist in this world with any sanity. But I will take a crack at this just to be humorous back <IMG height=12 src="http://graphics.hotmail.com/emsmile.gif" width=12></P>
<P>&gt;&gt;Argument 1) They can't reproduce. </P>
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<P>PW: "What other purpose does marriage serve if it doesn't create new, legitimate offspring? Are you suggesting some kind of santized prostitution?"</P>
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<P>DA: Well, let me see, could marriage include things like LOVE, companionship, understanding, stability, and commitment? Or is it reduced to simply having sex and reproducing like bunnies&nbsp;on grassy field on a warm summer day?&nbsp;</P>
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<P>PW "No! We shall build homes for the spinsters and the widowers where they can perform useful work without distraction and the men who remain unwed at age 22 shall volunteer for the Navy or the Merchant Marine, depending their temperments."</P>
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<P>DA: Oh, so we will let men that have never had sex before and are prevented from being with women alone on a ship together? You are more liberal than I am. I guess since all men would be included there would gay men on these ships too?&nbsp;&nbsp;</P>
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<P>DA: This means that the moment that a women stops menstruating that the man should dump his wife? And with modern technology same sex partners now can reproduce, only now in a controlled manner that makes sure the child will be well taken care of. </P>
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<P>PW: "Modern technology is of the Devil, as a glimpse in a typical 'INBOX' will quickly demonstrate."</P>
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<P>DA: I notice how you so well avoid the "evil" technology by reframing from the use of the internet. You&nbsp;will surely burn will you&nbsp;not?&nbsp;</P>
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<P>Argument 2) They can't really love each other. </P>
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<P>PW: "Making marriage a "love" thing was probably the biggest mistake of Western Civilization. Marriage is of the community and not of the individual's fickle fancy!!! No one should be allowed to court, much less marry, without the approval of at least five upright men from their Church or perhaps of their fathers' Granges, if they live in different parishes."</P>
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<P>DA: Oh, yes, Love must be excluded from things like commitment, trust, and understanding. We would also not want to confuse the children by demonstrating to them what love is. They might go out and love people in the future, and soon enough, love could spread through the country. Where you are going to find five men that are&nbsp;upright in one community, I don't know, God could only find one man on the whole entire planet, and even he was a sinner.&nbsp;</P>
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<P>&gt;Argument 3) The parts don't fit. </P>
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<P>PW: "There's one for some of your "modern technology"!" </P>
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<P>DA: Yes, not to mention the hiring of about 200,000 high priced doctors.</P>
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<P>Argument 4) It is against the Bible. </P>
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<P>DA: Gee, so is hating people, should we make that illegal too? </P>
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<P>PW: "Are you sure about that? Seems like that one guy hates just about everyone except perhaps Enoch and Noah, but it's not like we've heard much from them lately...</P>
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<P>DA: Your right, let us&nbsp;make hating people a requirement.&nbsp;</P>
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<P>Argument 5) It will lead to polygamy, bestiality, and pedophilia. </P>
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<P>PW: "And tax credits just for checking out if it's "your style" or not!" </P>
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<P>DA: We could not afford tax credits if you are paying doctors to measure body parts to make sure they fit their spouse.</P>
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<P>Peter makes me look like a moderate. :)</P>
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<P>Donovan J Arnold</P>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: Peter Willard <PETEW@COMPLETEBBS.COM>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: Vision2020 <VISION2020@MOSCOW.COM>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Re: Constitutional Ban on Gay Marriage 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 23:11:17 -0700 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;At 04:30 PM 8/4/03 -0700, Donovan Arnold wrote: 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;Argument 1) They can't reproduce. 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;What other purpose does marriage serve if it doesn't create new, 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;legitimate offspring? Are you suggesting some kind of santized 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;No! We shall build homes for the spinsters and the widowers where 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;remain unwed at age 22 shall volunteer for the Navy or the Merchant 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;This means that the moment that a women stops menstruating that the 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;man should dump his wife? And with modern technology same sex 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;partners now can reproduce, only now in a controlled manner that 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;makes sure the child will be well taken care of. 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Modern technology is of the Devil, as a glimpse in a typical "INBOX" 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;will quickly demonstrate. 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;Argument 2) They can't really love each other. 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Western Civilization. Marriage is of the community and not of the 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;individual's fickle fancy!!! 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;approval of at least five upright men from their Church or perhaps 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;Argument 3) The parts don't fit. 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;Argument 4) It is against the Bible. 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;Gee, so is hating people, should we make that illegal too? 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Are you sure about that? Seems like that one guy hates just about 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;everyone except perhaps Enoch and Noah, but it's not like we've 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;heard much from them lately... 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;Argument 5) It will lead to polygamy, bestiality, and pedophilia. 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;And tax credits just for checking out if it's "your style" or not! 
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