[Vision2020] Flaggers...

Sunil Ramalingam sunilramalingam@hotmail.com
Sun, 03 Aug 2003 22:13:29 -0700


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<P>I don't know Dan, have you *annualized* their salaries?&nbsp; What about graphs?</P>
<P>Sunil<BR><BR></P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: "Dan Carscallen" <PREDATOR75@MOSCOW.COM>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: "Vision2020" <VISION2020@MOSCOW.COM>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Flaggers... 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 15:11:03 -0700 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Boring, maybe. Dangerous for sure. They put their lives on the line daily with all the drivers who are in too big a hurry to slow down for road construction. It's also seasonal, so they aren't looking at that paycheck year round. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;DC 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;----- Original Message ----- 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: Don Kaag 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: Vision2020 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 11:44 AM 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: [Vision2020] Flaggers... 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Janesta: 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Boring? Only if you don't have anything to think about. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Other than periodically turning the sign around, you are pretty much at 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;liberty to listen to tunes on your CD box headphones, work on the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;perfect tan (Zonker would be jealous!), mentally solve the problems of 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;the world, flesh out the characters for that first novel, fantasize 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;about winning the lottery... the possibilities are endless! 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Regards, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Don Kaag 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;On Sunday, August 3, 2003, at 09:29 AM, JSullivan wrote: 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; But how boring of a job! 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Janesta 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; ----- Original Message ----- 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; From: "Don Kaag" <DKAAG@TURBONET.COM>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; To: "Vision2020" <VISION2020@MOSCOW.COM>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:20 AM 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Subject: [Vision2020] Professional position... 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; Visionaries: 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; Here's another one: 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; Highway construction site flaggers (Priv): $23.00/hr 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; This does take extensive training... 4 hours to be certified. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; Hey, wait a minute, that's more than I make teaching, doesn't require 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; an advanced degree, it's air-conditioned, and you can get a tan... 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; Heh, heh... 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; Regards, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; Don Kaag 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; On Sunday, August 3, 2003, at 07:14 AM, Dale Courtney wrote: 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Ted Moffett wrote: 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; As I wrote before, the lack of comparison between the incomes 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; of top professionals in other fields with the incomes of 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; public school teachers is a glaring oversight in your attempt 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to show that MSD teachers are overpaid. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; You must have missed this in all my previous posts. This *has* been 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; something addressed repeatedly. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; The following numbers are from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Here 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; are the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Mean Hourly Earnings by profession: 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Accountants &amp; Auditors (S&amp;L): $20.14/hr 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Computer Programmers (S&amp;L): $21.27/hr 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Accountants &amp; Auditors (Priv): $22.08/hr 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Computer Programmers (Priv): $24.49/hr 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Engineers, Architects, &amp; Surveyors (S&amp;L): $27.71/hr 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Secondary Teachers (S&amp;L): $30.48/hr 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Elementary Teachers (S&amp;L): $30.52/hr 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Engineers, Architects, &amp; Surveyors (priv): $31.05/hr 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Lawyers (S&amp;L): $34.64 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Note: these numbers do *not* take into consideration benefits, etc. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; They 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; also do not take into account the teachers' 60 non-work days per 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; year. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Would you like me to post a correction to your Letter to the Editor, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; or 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; would you prefer to do it yourself? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Best, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Dale Courtney 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Moscow, Idaho 
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