[Vision2020] Thanks
Jim Baillargeon
jjbaillargeon@moscow.com
Thu, 17 Apr 2003 17:08:52 -0700
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Sunil,
No, your right, folks will go .(tho i've no doubt SOME won't) I =
wasn't trying to paint a hard line "either-or"picture, but raise the =
hackles on enough people & it can cost you
jim
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From: Sunil Ramalingam=20
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Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Thanks
Jim,
Are you saying that people were going to stop going to the Baseball =
Hall of Fame if they had honored 'Bull Durham?'
Sunil
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> > frustrating, they do make me think. So, Tim's response about =
"Freedom not=20
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> > only good nigger is a dead nigger" alongside the motor oil and =
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> > for his political views? And if so, how are you going to protect =
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> > against my boycott and my protesting in front of his place of =
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> > and this Hall of Fame and TV show canceling. It seems to me that =
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really just=20
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single=20
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having that=20
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Fame, a=20
> > television network.=20
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> > If I chose not to attend or support event "x" because it conflicts =
with my=20
> > beliefs, that is much different from event "x" being cancelled by =
one=20
>person=20
> > because he/she has the power/position to IMPOSE their beliefs on =
all those=20
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> > Respectfully,=20
> > Judy LaLonde=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sunil,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> No, your right, =
folks will go=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> jim</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 16, 2003 =
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PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] =
Thanks</DIV>
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<P>Jim,</P>
<P>Are you saying that people were going to stop going to the Baseball =
Hall of=20
Fame if they had honored 'Bull Durham?'</P>
<P>Sunil<BR><BR></P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>From: "Jim Baillargeon" <JJBAILLARGEON@MOSCOW.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>To: "Judy B. LaLonde" <JUDYB@UIDAHO.EDU>,=20
<CARLWESTBERG846@HOTMAIL.COM>, <VISION2020@MOSCOW.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Thanks=20
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 17:49:23 -0700=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>Judy L,=20
<DIV></DIV>> think on this,Event "X" is cancelled by one person, =
NOT=20
because she/he=20
<DIV></DIV>>has the power, But because their job requires them to =
be aware=20
of the fact=20
<DIV></DIV>>that millions of "Judy L's" might very well be offended =
&=20
dump her/ his=20
<DIV></DIV>>station/program, dropping the ratings. Enough mistakes =
like=20
that & it's=20
<DIV></DIV>>time to search the want ads. Like it or not, MONEY =
TALKS, &=20
people "vote"=20
<DIV></DIV>>with their purses=20
<DIV></DIV>>----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV></DIV>>From: "Judy B. LaLonde" <JUDYB@UIDAHO.EDU>
<DIV></DIV>>To: <CARLWESTBERG846@HOTMAIL.COM>; =
<VISION2020@MOSCOW.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 10:45 AM=20
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: [Vision2020] Thanks=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>> > Carl, et. al.=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> > Thanks for your most recent post about the =
Baseball Hall=20
of Fame.=20
<DIV></DIV>> > I have to say that although I find many of the =
postings=20
on vision20/20=20
<DIV></DIV>>very=20
<DIV></DIV>> > frustrating, they do make me think. So, Tim's =
response=20
about "Freedom not=20
<DIV></DIV>> > being free" has given me pause.=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> > I was trying to figure out what the difference is =
(at=20
least in my mind)=20
<DIV></DIV>> > between the instances Joe wrote:=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> > ("Are you saying some=20
<DIV></DIV>> > white-supremacist/Klansman/Neo-Nazi who sells =
bumper=20
stickers that say,=20
<DIV></DIV>>"The=20
<DIV></DIV>> > only good nigger is a dead nigger" alongside the =
motor=20
oil and snack food=20
<DIV></DIV>> > at his gas station should not have to pay a price =
(in the=20
form of=20
<DIV></DIV>>boycotts)=20
<DIV></DIV>> > for his political views? And if so, how are you =
going to=20
protect him=20
<DIV></DIV>> > against my boycott and my protesting in front of =
his=20
place of business=20
<DIV></DIV>> > without infringing my right of free speech?")=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> > and this Hall of Fame and TV show canceling. It =
seems to=20
me that the=20
<DIV></DIV>>major=20
<DIV></DIV>> > difference is between a single individual doing =
something=20
that really just=20
<DIV></DIV>> > reflects her/his viewpoint and stays on that =
personal=20
level AND a single=20
<DIV></DIV>> > individual doing something that reflects his/her=20
viewpoint but having that=20
<DIV></DIV>> > larger impact because the individual REPRESENTS, =
i.e. the=20
Hall of Fame, a=20
<DIV></DIV>> > television network.=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> > If I chose not to attend or support event "x" =
because it=20
conflicts with my=20
<DIV></DIV>> > beliefs, that is much different from event "x" =
being=20
cancelled by one=20
<DIV></DIV>>person=20
<DIV></DIV>> > because he/she has the power/position to IMPOSE =
their=20
beliefs on all those=20
<DIV></DIV>> > affected.=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> > Respectfully,=20
<DIV></DIV>> > Judy LaLonde=20
<DIV></DIV>> > Moscow=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>> > =
_____________________________________________________=20
<DIV></DIV>> > List services made available by First Step =
Internet,=20
<DIV></DIV>> > serving the communities of the Palouse since =
1994.=20
<DIV></DIV>> > http://www.fsr.net=20
<DIV></DIV>> > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com=20
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<DIV></DIV>>_____________________________________________________=20
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