[Vision2020] Disturbing trends

[Joe Huffman]

>The very idea that
>anyone could pay a price for saying anything that is politically
>unpopular is to desecrate the very patriotism that the voluntary
>military has fought and died for.

Am I missing something?  Are you saying some
white-supremacist/Klansman/Neo-Nazi who sells bumper stickers that say, "The
only good nigger is a dead nigger." alongside the motor oil and snack food
at his gas station should not have to pay a price (in the form of boycotts)
for his political views?  And if so, how are you going to protect him
against my boycott and my protesting in front of his place of business
without infringing my right of free speech?

I surely don't understand your position.  Please explain.

-joe-
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-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On
Behalf Of John Danahy
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 4:35 PM
To: vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Disturbing trends


In all the discussion so far on this list there has been no more
frightening statement than that of Scott below.  The very idea that
anyone could pay a price for saying anything that is politically
unpopular is to desecrate the very patriotism that the voluntary
military has fought and died for.  It is such statements, and the vile
corruption of patriotism that has been co-opted by the Bush
administration, that I am, not anti-war, but anti-Bush.
John
jdanahy@turbonet.com


-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Scott Dredge
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 1:45 PM
To: vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Disturbing trends

The government hasn't done anything to limit their
speech.  These people have said things that are
policitically unpopular and now they're paying a
price.  The same thing happened to Dr. Laura when she
made unpopular statements about homosexuals.

-Scott

--- Carl Westberg <carlwestberg846@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Last week, the president of the baseball Hall of
> Fame cancelled a planned
> 15th anniversary celebration of the movie Bull
> Durham because he did not
> like the fact that Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon
> have spoken against the
> war.  Never mind the fact that, according to
> Robbins, all he planned on
> talking about was baseball and the making of the
> film.  He had no intention
> of saying anything about the war.  In today's
> Spokesman is a report that
> actress Janeane Garofalo's scheduled new television
> series may be doomed.
> She has spoken against the war and criticized
> President Bush, and the
> network appears to be folding to pressure to keep
> her show off the air, due
> to her audacity.  A couple of pages later in the
> same section is the story
> of Ed Gernon, the producer of the CBS miniseries
> "Hitler, The Rise of Evil."
>   After more than a decade with the company, he's
> been fired for statements
> he made regarding the project and President Bush.
> His crime?  This quote:
> "It basically boils down to an entire nation gripped
> by fear, who ultimately
> chose to give up their civil rights and plunged the
> whole world into war.  I
> can't think of a better time to examine this history
> than now."  And one of
> the presumed rights our troops are fighting for in
> Iraq is the freedom of
> speech.
>
>
>                 Carl
> Westberg Jr.
>
>
>
>
>
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