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<p class="MsoNormal">I remember being surprised some years ago when a lawyer served me an ER 904 notice and documents about 4 months before trial. He pointed out that 30 days is a minimum notice, not maximum. True enough! So I think I would argue that your
earlier ER 904 was already effective, and if no objection was filed within 14 days then the documents are already deemed admissible regardless of the later rule change.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Or that’d be my argument to the judge anyway...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Eric<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Eric C. Nelsen<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sayre Law Offices, PLLC<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">1417 31st Ave South<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Seattle WA 98144-3909<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">206-625-0092<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com"><span style="color:#467886">eric@sayrelawoffices.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrekita Silva<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 17, 2026 8:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv (wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com) <wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] ER 904 amendment eff. September 1, 2026<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Law Office of F. Andrekita Silva<br>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">September 17, 2026</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Eric,</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Thanks so much for bringing this to our attention. This is a huge bummer. I have a parenting plan trial in Snohomish County that was supposed to go out in April, but was continued
to August 10 so that GAL could conduct a final report.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">On August 10, we were inexplicably continued to December 14. I was already wondering if my prior ER 904 submittal (submitted for April) could simply be updated. So much time
has gone by, we now have more police reports. Although our prior ER 904 submittal had important text messages, it also included various police reports dealing with domestic violence. We got some through a Public Disclosure request and others by subpoena.
Police reports would not be hearsay under 803(6). </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">But, it looks like now we must go have law enforcement certify the records?</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I'm wondering if documents submitted under prior ER 904 prior to 9/1 (and even prior to 30 days before that) would be admissible or if they would fall under the new rule?</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Andrekita Silva</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Law Office of F. Andrekita Silva</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">1325 Fourth Avenue, Suite 940</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Seattle, Washington 98101-2509</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">206-224-8288</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:ak@seattle-silvalaw.com">ak@seattle-silvalaw.com</a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">On 2026/09/17 09:51 AM, Eric Nelsen wrote:</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I just started a trial prep for a trial next month and looked at ER</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">904--discovered it was just amended, effective September 1. The old</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">catch-all provision of ER 904(6) is gone, and now every document has</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">to fit one of the now-twelve enumerated categories.
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Looks like the statewide judges' association lobbied to get sub (6)</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">eliminated because it was--in their view--being abused by lawyers</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">designating hundreds of documents under sub (6), and it generated so</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">many objections it caused more time and work for the court than it was</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">intended to save.
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I am bummed. It was nice to be able to get copies of emails and the</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">like easily admitted by that process. The scope of the twelve</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">categories is quite a bit more limited than what was possible under</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">the old sub (6).
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Sincerely, </span>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Eric </span>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Eric C. Nelsen
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Sayre Law Offices, PLLC
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">1417 31st Ave South
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Seattle WA 98144-3909
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">206-625-0092
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