<div dir="ltr">Absent this specific language in the PSA or on the deed itself, does a PR deed contain any warranties, even limited warranties from a B&S deed? I have seen multiple attorney opinions on this, but can find no case law or statute stating one way or the other. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 21, 2025 at 2:13 PM Mark Vohr <<a href="mailto:mcv@ohanafc.com">mcv@ohanafc.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-5640676534661133693">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">In addition to what Eric stated (to which I fully agree – particularly the PR deed, which is basically a bargain and sale deed) we include an addendum with limits – including
a court approval contingency if case something goes haywire. Some of the other matters we cover in the addendum, included but not limited to, are:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">1. Buyer understands that the sales price reflects the buyer-borne risk of purchasing this Property, including all structures and improvements thereon, "as is" with no representations
of warranty whatsoever, including but not limited to:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">a</span><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">. the condition or habitability of the Property;<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">b</span><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">. the presence or absence of asbestos and urea formaldehyde;<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">c</span><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">. whether or not the Property complies with applicable housing or building codes;<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">d</span><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">. the location of the Property boundaries and the presence or absence of encroachments upon
the Property upon adjoining property; and<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">e</span><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">. whether the Property is served by a public water main or public sewer main or other utilities.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">f. the presence or absence of underground heating oil tanks or petroleum based contaminants.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">2</span><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">. All plumbing, heating, electrical systems and included appliances are sold in "as is" condition
at the time of closing. Seller is not obligated to repair or replace plumbing, heating, electrical systems or included appliances which are presently defective, or become defective prior to closing.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Regards,</span><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Mark<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Mark C. Vohr, J.D. CPGC<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Ohana Fiduciary Corporation<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">A Washington Trust Company<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">155 NE 100<sup>th</sup> St., Suite 209<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Seattle, WA 98125<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Telephone: (206) 782-1189<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Eric Nelsen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 21, 2025 11:17 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Question Regarding PSA<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">They survive closing but there’s still a 3-year statute of limitations on misrepresentation cases.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">On the other hand, a PR should not make any representations or warranties at all. Here’s standard language I add as an addendum to any sale of property from an Estate:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> 1. Buyer acknowledges that Seller is the Personal Representative of an Estate and can make no representations or warranties whatsoever, express or implied, regarding the Property because Seller
has insufficient information to make such representations or warranties, and because Seller is exempt from property disclosure requirements pursuant to Chapter 64.06 RCW. Buyer acknowledges that Seller's disclaimer of warranties and representations in this
Addendum was bargained for and that the price which Buyer is paying for the Property reflects the lack of warranties and representations by Seller. Buyer further acknowledges that Buyer has negotiated, by other terms of this Agreement, all inspections and
feasibility or other studies which Buyer believes are necessary to determine the condition of the Property, the suitability of the Property for Buyer's purposes, and the truth of those matters material to Buyer upon which Seller makes no representation or
warranty.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> 2. The Property (including all structures and improvements thereon) is sold without representation or warranty as to (a) the condition or habitability of the Property, (b) the presence or
absence of asbestos, ureaformaldehyde, or other hazardous or toxic substances on the Property, (c) whether or not the Property complies with applicable housing code provisions or governmental laws or regulations, (d) the location of the Property boundaries
and the presence or absence of encroachments upon the Property or from the Property upon adjoining property, (e) whether the Property is served by public water, public sewer or other utilities, (f) condition of well, if any, or septic system, if any, and their
compliance with applicable governmental requirements, (g) lot size or square footage of the Property, (h) whether the Property complies with applicable governmental laws and regulations, including those pertaining to short platting, (i) zoning of the Property,
and (j) any other matter relating to the Property.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> 3. Title shall be conveyed by a Personal Representative's Deed with only the following warranty language: "The Grantor, for itself and for its successors in interest, hereby expressly limits
the covenants of the Deed to those herein expressed, and excludes all covenants arising or to arise by statutory or other implication, and does hereby covenant that against all persons whomsoever lawfully claiming or to claim by, through or under said grantor,
and not otherwise, grantor will forever warrant and defend the same described real estate."<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Sincerely,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Eric<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Eric C. Nelsen<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Sayre Law Offices, PLLC<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">1417 31st Ave South<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Seattle WA 98144-3909<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">206-625-0092<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><a href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com" target="_blank">eric@sayrelawoffices.com</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>James Dolan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 21, 2025 11:12 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBARP] Question Regarding PSA<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Warning - this may be a dumb question! I don’t handle a lot of real property transactions, so I want to put this question out to the hive.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Client (Personal Representative) is selling deceased dad’s home as PR. She questions the language in Section 9.9 of the PSA, below, regarding representations and warranties
that “survive closing.” Does this mean indefinitely? Is this standard PSA language, or is there usually a time limit?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,96,130)">9.9. Survivability. The truth and accuracy of the representations set forth in this<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,96,130)">Agreement shall constitute conditions precedent to Closing. All covenants of Purchaser or Seller<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,96,130)">that are intended hereunder to be performed in whole or in part after Closing, and all<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,96,130)">representations and warranties by either Party to the other, shall
</span><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(192,0,0)">survive Closing and shall be<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(192,0,0)">binding upon and inure to the benefit of the respective Parties hereto and their respective heirs,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(192,0,0)">executors, administrators, successors and assigns.
</span><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,96,130)">As provided herein, the indemnification<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(21,96,130)">obligations set forth in this Agreement shall also</span><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span style="color:rgb(192,0,0)">survive Closing.<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Thanks in advance,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Jim Dolan<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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