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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002060">Because the death certificate has already been recorded, title has already vested in the Grantees. The only way they can divest themselves of their interests is
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claims and their amounts. The Deed of Trust would ensure that valid creditor claims are paid when the property is sold.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John McCrady<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 04/21/2025 9:07 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] Title Company Refusing to Honor TODD<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Is it too late for the grantees to disclaim their interest, then have the property go through probate<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">John McCrady<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Puget Sound Title Company<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Brent Williams-Ruth<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 18, 2025 3:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:WSBAPT@lists.wsbarppt.com">WSBAPT@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>; WSBA Real Property Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBARP] Title Company Refusing to Honor TODD<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-line-height-alt:.75pt"><span style="font-size:1.0pt;color:#F6F6F6">Greetings List Members - I have a messy probate - it's messy because after creating a Will with me years ago, my client worked with a financial adviser who had
her put everything on TOD, including a TODD for her real property. The death certificat
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmaildefault"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I have a messy probate - it's messy because after creating a Will with me years ago, my client worked with a financial adviser who had her put everything on TOD, including
a TODD for her real property. The death certificate was recorded.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmaildefault"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Sadly, there are tons of creditor claims. The 3 new owners of the home (via the TODD) have decided they need to sell to pay off the debts. OK, so Rainier Title is
now telling me that they want the Executor to take responsibility and sell this property as a PR Deed. </span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmaildefault"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">In speaking with the rep from Rainier Title he stated TWICE - WE DON'T FOLLOW THE LAW. </span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmaildefault"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">He wants me to just write a PR deed and have the Executor "sell" this property and then take the proceeds. </span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Now, I would honestly LOVE to do this. It would be so much easier than having to write to each owner and say - hey, under the abatement statute I need X% back to cover the debts. Truly, there
is nothing more I would love than if this were to be under my control and just not have to deal with clawing back money that was sent out through beneficiary designations. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Can anyone out there provide me legal cover by where I and my Executor have the ability to vitiate a valid TODD (signed in 2018, btw, this was not something done death bed) and turn this into
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I got extremely frustrated as this title representative just said "lots of attorneys will just do this..." and maybe someone reading this will. But I am literally trying to rewrite our standards
for Character and Fitness (report being published soon by SU Law online law review). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">But I also acknowledge that there may be some case law out there that supports that a title company can require extra steps when the sale of property is less than one year from the date of death. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Appreciate any guidance that gives me and the PR both ethical and lawful cover. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Brent Williams-Ruth</span></b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> (pronouns: he/him)<br>
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