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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">So if the trailer was also owned by the landlord, the RLTA would apply? Or regardless of ownership, since it’s a trailer and not a “dwelling” RLTA doesn’t apply? Makes it even worse I think.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Carmen Rowe<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 6, 2024 4:57 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jan Kelly <jan@jankellylaw.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com>; sail_wa@googlegroups.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBARP] [SAIL_WA] Termination of RV Lease<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">But if someone has not already noted this, there is a very recent case dealing with a similar scenario. I forwarded it to a real property list I'm on but I don't think this one. Below
is the link (and, FWIW, my commentary on it at the time). I don't do LL/T work either, but used to, and found it an interesting case. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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May. 14, 2024 - 58054-3 - Steven Pohl, Respondent v. Dennis Mark, Appellant <br>
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General situation: person moved onto property with a make-shift trailer, there was an oral agreement that likely would be a rental agreement if occupied the residence, but was not as he was residing in his own trailer on the land. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">I know it's a narrow band of cases where someone is on the property but not in the house, but I've heard of courts stretching the RLTA to people living on property in their trailers to
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">While this was still towards protecting the unwanted occupant, it pretty clearly sets out law that would work in the owner's favor if they followed the "at will" procedure versus RLTA. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">It also takes it out of the UD process - which as I understand, many courts are setting out ridiculously far out (again presumably in a "tenant-advocate" approach). While UD is "quicker"
in some circumstances, perhaps not when you can't even get on the docket, particularly if you have facts supporting a summary judgment on ejectment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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of action, and use every possible applicable notice. But a reminder in these types of situations. Though with the conflict of notices, I've seen courts reject the ultimate request for relief because the alternate notices were "confusing". One I saw work was
using the most generous notice provision and using those time-frames rather than the shorter one that might be available under an alternate theory, thus having all time frames line up. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 11:44<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>AM Jan Kelly <<a href="mailto:jan@jankellylaw.com" target="_blank">jan@jankellylaw.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I hope that some of your landlord-tenant attorneys can provide a bit of information for me. PC owns land in Jefferson County, where they created their own lease for a couple to rent a space for their RV. The lease expires on 7/1, and can
only be extended by mutual agreement. Landlord does not want to extend the lease, as tenants aren't paying rent and etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">How difficult will it be to evict the tenants if they hold over? Are the landlords subject to the same laws for eviction from a residence? They live in the RV.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am hopeful that someone can give me a quick bit of info off the cuff. If the tenants hold over, I will look for an attorney who can handle this matter. I have no desire to work in the residential L-T field.<o:p></o:p></p>
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