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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002060">For what it's worth, be aware that the lawful heir to the deceased member will only be a transferee of the membership interest. Until the LLC approves the heir
as a new member; the heir will only have a pecuniary interest in the LLC. The heir will not have voting rights, numerous responsibilities, or protections under the operating agreement.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Eric Nelsen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 26, 2024 11:54 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Probate necessary?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">I agree, probate not required for this if the remaining LLC members agree to transfer the interest. From the perspective of the LLC, they need to know who the lawful heir to the deceased member’s
interest is. So the issue is what level of proof of heirship is satisfactory to the LLC, by which they are satisfied they’re not running a risk of transferring the interest to the wrong person and subjecting themselves to a lawsuit by the proper heir.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">If the LLC members were so minded, they could refuse to transfer the interest without receiving a court order confirming heirship. Or if they know the people involved and are reasonably confident
they know enough, they could transfer the interest without any documentation or demand for proof at all. Or any level of proof in between.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Eric<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Eric C. Nelsen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Philip N. Jones<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 26, 2024 11:15 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Probate necessary?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">My vote is that probate is probably not necessary, if the remaining members of the LLC agree that the shares can be transferred without probate. I suggest that a new operating
agreement could reflect the new situation, but keep in mind that you should also consider whether the decedent had any creditors.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I know that some people use a Certificate of Incumbency to reflect the current situation, without the need for a probate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Phil Jones<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ann Manley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 26, 2024 11:10 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Probate necessary?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Client's deceased husband made an investment in a LLC. The operating agreement reads that the two of them and a third person each have shares. Client and husband each own 10% as individuals. Investment made from community funds.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">He died intestate. Short of a community property agreement, are we required to open a probate to transfer his interest to her?<o:p></o:p></p>
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